JOHN DOE #2 IDENTIFIED: BUT CAN WE GET THE FBI TO ARREST HIM?
THE STORY OF THE EVENTS THAT WILL EXPOSE
THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING TRUTH
THE FIRST ALABAMA CAVALRY REGIMENT CONSTITUTIONAL MILITIA
John Doe #2 Identified: But Can We Get the FBI to Arrest Him?
20 July 1996
THE BEST LITTLE PAPER IN OKLAHOMA BREAKS THE BIGGEST STORY OF 1996,
BUT THE BIG BOYS FROM NEW YORK ARE NOT FAR BEHIND.
NOTE: My apologies to devoted John Doe #2 readers, but the AO-Hell problem
with flashmail is still not fixed. "It's just a little glitch were
having with our system.... No. I don't know when it will be up....No the
ATF is NOT paying us to do this to you. We're just incompetent." Therefore
I am having to enter this mail while online, not the cheapest way in the
world but I'm tired of the networks calling: "When will we get the
Prior to this week, ABC had the lead with NBC not far behind. CBS has
found themselves a nice little source though, and they're coming up fast
on the outside now. Personally, my money's on NBC, but its going to be
close. The blue ribbon goes to the one who gets the best story out there
first, but there is intense pressure being generated by the Justice Department
both on news media to "go slow, make sure you get it right, you know
the consequences if you're wrong..." and on their own people to keep
their mouths shut about OKC. Of course the downing of the TWA flight 800
has pulled some resources away from the story, but they'll be back. The
OKC story is too good (or bad, depending on your point of view; bad = good
in news world) to ignore.
Kirk Lyons is burning up the wires just now wanting to know "Who
the hell is Mike Vanderboegh? What can you tell me about him?" Email
me, Kirk. I'll be happy to correspond with the John Doe Central representative
directly. "By their works ye shall know them."
And now, without further ado.......
McCURTAIN (OKLAHOMA) DAILY GAZETTE, SUNDAY, 14 JULY 1996
by J.D. Cash
After months of official "no comments" and even outright denials,
a highly-placed source at the FBI has confirmed that Andreas Carl Strassmeir
was a paid government informant sent by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco
and Firearms to infiltrate Elohim City-- a Christian Identity religious
compound near Muldrow, Oklahoma.
Following numerous investigative reports by national and international
news services about the mysterious German "tourist" with suspicious
ties to Timothy McVeigh, some supervisory-level agents at the Bureau now
want to distance themselves from mounting evidence that the OKC bombing
was a "blown sting operation" by the ATF-- an operation which
Strassmeir himself has admitted intimate knowledge.
Supplementing the GAZETTE's nine-month investigation into links between
Strassmeir, McVeigh and the neo-Nazi movement in this country, a variety
of news organizations have also begun uncovering and reporting some unsettling
facts about the German national's activities and associations. Such revelations
now include that of a family in Arkansas whose bodies were recently found
handcuffed and submerged in an Arkansas bayou and a bank robber turned
government witness-- discovered Friday dangling from a bed sheet in his
ATF COMPUTER "FINGERPRINTS"
Speaking on condition of anonymity, a high-level source at the FBI confirmed
that the ATF "indices" reflect "substantial" intelligence-gathering
activities in which Strassmeir was a participant. "Indices" are
classified computer-generated files, maintained by federal law enforcement
organizations, and are used by their intelligence units to track data on
the suspicious activities of various groups and individuals.
This last Monday, the Denver court made public an order that gives lawyers
for Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols approval to gain access to any government
wiretaps on the bombing defendants. Any FBI and ATF indices that mention
Strassmeir are expected to become hotly contested targets of discovery
requests as well. In the past, attorneys for McVeigh and Nichols have argued
to Judge Match that the Justice Department has not been forthcoming with
all "exculpatory" eidence that it has in its possession. Very
clearly, said one legal expert, if there is evidence that a government
informant was working within the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy, that
evidence could be critical to a defense team's case-- especially if the
defense of "entrapment" is to be raised.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: NOTHING, REPEAT, NOTHING THAT THE PRIVATE OKLAHOMA
CITY INVESTIGATION HAS UNCOVERED "EXCULPATES" McVEIGH OR NICHOLS
IN ANY WAY. "ENTRAPMENT" IS HOGWASH ALSO. THESE GUYS, ESPECIALLY
McVEIGH, KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. THE FACT THAT McVEIGH IS JUST A TRUCK
DRIVER AND A FUSE PULLER MAKES HIM NO LESS CULPABLE. SMOKESCREEN DEFENSES
FOR STRASSMEIR & CO. THROWN UP BY KIRK LYONS THAT OUR WORK IS ALL SOMEHOW
FOR THE BENEFIT OF TIM McVEIGH IS A CROCK OF NAZI CRAP.)
THE McVEIGH-STRASSMEIR "FLAP"
As reported earlier by the GAZETTE, the "flap" over Andreas
Strassmeir began when the GAZETTE reported that residents of Elohim City
said that Timothy McVeigh was trying to contact Strassmeir-- just days
before the bombing of the Oklahoma City federal Building. Phone records
indicate that on April 5, a call was made to Elohim City from a motel room
registered to Timothy McVeigh. That call was just seconds after McVeigh
is widely reported to have called a Ryder truck rental establishment in
When evidence of the Elohim City call was leaked to the press, national
attention suddenly rained down on the white supremacist community. "We
don't know anything about any such call," the Rev. Millar assured
reporters a month after the bombing, adding, "If Tim McVeigh did call,
no one here knows anything about it." Months later, Millar discovered
that there had been one or two calls to the compound-- by McVeigh. Today,
Millar says those calls were for their "Chief of Security," Andreas
Strassmeir. The substance of the message, Millar recalls, was that Strassmeir
should be told that McVeigh would be visiting soon. Today, residents there
maintain they don't know Tim McVeigh and don't believe the bombing defendant
ever visited Elohim City.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: YEAH, TO QUOTE "POGO", THEY ALL CAUGHT
Following the GAZETTE STORY concerning the McVeigh phone call(s), Strassmeir's
attorney, Kirk Lyons, sent out a newsletter to his friends and supporters.
Detailing Strassmeir's sudden departure from the U.S., Lyons explained
that due to death threats and harassment, his client had to be spirited
out of the U.S. using a covert route through Mexico--eventually arriving
safe in Berlin. Aiding Strassmeir's "escape," Lyons said, was
germany's equivalent of our Delta Force-- the vaunted counter-terrorism
Hoping to explain away the McVeigh phone calls to Elohim City, Strassmeir's
attorney prepared and distributed an unsigned and unsworn statement saying
that if Strassmeir ever met McVeigh, it was a single encounter at a gun
show in Tulsa in the summer of 1993. In that document, Strassmeir says
he can only vaguely recall such a meeting, but, if there was one, he may
have given McVeigh a card with Elohim City's phone number on it.
Also, the statement includes a reference to some military fatigues that
McVeigh taded for a Navy combat knife that belonged to the german national.
Documents obtained by the GAZETTE indicate that McVeigh had, at the time
of his arrest, a knife quite similar to the one Strassmeir describes.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: YEAH, AND ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES, ANDY CUT THE
"McVEIGH" NAME TAPES OFF THE BDUS IN A KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE "SAFEHOUSE"
PROVIDED HIM THROUGH THE GOOD OFFICES OF KIRK LYONS.)
Based on the formal statement, Strassmeir believes that McVeigh must
have retained the Elohim City card for two years, until, as prosecutors
allege, he was in the midst of planning and executing the Oklahoma City
bombing and then, for reasons no one has publicly explained, the accused
mass-murderer suddenly decided to contact Strassmeir for the first time
since the Tulsa Gun Show.
THE STRASSMEIR FAMILY
The son of [one of] Europe's most able and influebtial politicians,
Andreas Strassmeir began "visiting" the U.S. in 1988. Up to that
time, the then 23-year-old German army officer had served in the Panzer
Grenadiers and a short stint as liason to Great Britain's prestigous Welsh
Guards. Concurrently, Strassmeir's father, Guenter, had risen to the position
of Secretary of State to Berlin, a position which gave the veteran parliamentarian
virtual control over almost every ministry in the former capital city.
The younger Strassmeir has admitted to journalists that his military
assignments sometimes included covert projects and training. This was at
a time when his father was deeply involved in West Germany's effort to
destroy communism abroad and quell the rise of fascism at home. Eventually
the family's shared dream of reunification of the divided Germanies was
realized, but in its wake the streets of germany would be littered with
elements of discontent. Such discontent was often directed by a violent
and burgeoning fascist movement-- the neo-Nazi "skinheads", a
movement with direct links to the United States.
SPECIAL PROJECT PROMISED
Reported in the LONDON SUNDAY TELEGRAPH, Strassmeir told interviewers
that he settled in the U.S. in 1989 because of a "special project"
he was promised by the U.S. Justice department. Although Andreas Starssmeir
has never commented publicly about what that project may have been, one
clue may be gleaned from the announcement of a joint surveillance operation
between the United States and Germany. The target of that operation-- the
U.S. based neo-Nazi movement.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: I'M GETTING A LITTLE TIRED OF PUTTING "NEO"
IN FRONT OF "NAZI"--- THERE AIN'T ANYTHING "NEO" ABOUT
THESE CRUDS. THEY'RE THE SAME OLD SCUM OF THE EARTH THEY ALWAYS WERE. JUST
AS DANGEROUS AND, NOW AS WE SEE FROM OKLAHOMA CITY, AN EXTENSION OF AT
LEAST ONE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT'S POLICY.)
In 1993, Louis Freeh, the head of the FBI, and Ron Noble, then the No.
2 official from the Treasury , revealed for the first time that an agreement
had been reached between the U.S. and Germany to monitor the export of
U.S.-produced neo-Nazi literature. Also announced at that time was an agreement
to share intelligence on terrorist groups that were suspected of operating
in concert between the U.S. and Germany. Making this necessary, the government's
agreed, was the recent rise of the "skinhead" and Ku Klux Klan
cells in Germany. Such groups were believed to be, in large part, supported
by members of various white supremacist groups, who had been traveling
to Germany from the U.S.
CIVIL WAR OR 007 BUFF?
Retired U.S. Air Force colonel, Vincent Petruskie, of Petruskie and
Associates of Manassas, VA., recalls that the first time Strassmeir came
to the U.S., he was with some other young Germans, intent on participating
in the 125th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg. Petruskie, a former
intelligence agent for the Office of Special Investigations (OSI) says
he took Strassmeir under his wing and tryed to find him employemnt in the
federal government performing undercover work. It was a task that, Strassmeir's
attorney now says, could not be accomplished because of legal hurdles.
Says Lyons, "Colonel Petruskie and I tried to find Andy any kind
of job we could, but since he (Strassmeir) only had a tourist visa and
no green card (work permit) we couldn't find him anything but odd jobs."
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: "Odd" jobs to be sure, but how is it
that somebody who can't get a green card, has no trouble getting a social
security number? Yup, you guessed it. Issued in 1989 in Virginia. Did Petruskie's
CIA buddies get it for him? Or did Petruskie himself tell the lies necessary
to get Strassmeir this vital document? News organizations wishing the number
may apply to this email address. And one more thing: What is the nature
of the Petruskie/Lyon relationship? Did any money change hands? For what
purpose? Hey, Kirk: "Who did you know, when did know them?")
Disputing the story that Strassmeir didn't have proper documentation
to obtain employment is a copy of a driver's license that the GAZETTE has
obtained. It shows that, somehow, the German "tourist" was able
to obtain a valid Tennessee license and social security number in 1992.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: YEAH, YOU GUESSED IT, THE ADDRESS ON THE LICENSE
WAS THE KNOXVILLE "SAFE HOUSE" PROVIDED BY KIRK AND HIS BUDDIES.)
And apparently, one of the "odd jobs" Lyons and Petruskie
spoke of was indeed unique. During an interview in Berlin a few weeks ago,
a questions was put to Strassmeir which appeared to shock him. Conducting
the interview was Oklahoma City attorney Mike Johnston, who asked Strassmeir
about the attempted purchase of some Boeing 747s that the German had been
Johnston recalls that "Strassmeir was shocked, and then sputtered,
'How did you know that?'" Eventually, Strassmeir settled down and
said he was acting as a middle man for an old family friend, Colonel Petruskie,
who he also described as "an ex-CIA guy that my father has known since
the Cold War." However, Petruskie told the NEW AMERICAN he had never
met Strassmeir's father, who he believed he had spoken with on the phone
So why did Strassmeir "vacation" in the U.S. for eight years,
in clear violation of the normal short-term tourist visa restrictions?
Kirk Lyons said, "When Andy came to the U.S., he found our way of
life much more free and easy than the stifling political atmosphere in
Germany. Andy was really hung up on our Civil War history and wanted to
meet American girls." Strassmeir's attorney adds, "So, for a
while, I arranged for Andy to stay with a friend of mine in Texas... Later,
I arranged for Andy to move to Elohim City."
TEXANS REMEMBER STRASSMEIR
Former and current members of the Texas Light Infantry Brigade (TLI)
a mish-mash of Civil War reenactors and survivalists, vividly recall the
lanky foreigner-- some with disdain.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: THIS IS A SOMEHWAT UNFAIR AND MISLEADING CHARACTERIZATION
OF TLI IN ITS ENTIRETY. THERE ARE CW REENACTORS WHO CALL THEMSELVES "TEXAS
LIGHT INFANTRY" AND DOUBTLESS THERE ARE "SURVIVALISTS" IN
TLI. BUT MOST OF TLI IS A STRAIGHT-OUT CITIZEN'S MILITIA THAT IS OFFICIALLY
RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AND DOES "OPFOR" EXERCISES WITH
THE TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD. THERE ARE ALSO TLI UNITS AND INDIVDUALS WHO ARE
ALL OF THESE, AND SOMETHING MORE SINISTER AS WELL.)
"Strassmeir set me up and ruined my life," reports one man,
who has fled Texas and now lives in Colorado. Referring to the TLI militia
group that was established initially with the help of Kirk Lyons and Lyons'
close associate, Dave Holloway, the Colorado resident spoke only on condition
of anonymity during a tape-recorded interview.
"Andy was coming to our meetings in 1989 and 1990. By July of 1991,
my life and my freedom were in danger because of Strassmeir," he said,
adding, "Some of the members of our group began following that guy
at night. We were suspicious of him and who he really was... He told us
he was wanted by the Immigration Service because he was here illegally.
Once, we followed him to a federal building and watched him use the key
pad to enter the offices at night... Then we knew he was a federal agent
of some kind."
Following this incident, the source said, other members of the group
became concerned, too. "So I told Andy that if he had some problems
with the Feds, he should quit coming to our meetings... We didn't need
his problems. After that," the man explained, "all hell broke
loose... the ATF set me up on two occasions, and some of the other guys
were set up too. Finally, in July of 1991, I took off."
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: There is evidence that there were "complications"
with this case and the ATF just wanted this man (and others that Strassmeir
had fingered) "the hell out of Dodge" in order to preserve Strassmeir's
cover. There are currently no outstanding charges against this source that
we can determine. Since when has ATF ever given up a collar unless it was
for a "higher" (read "lower") purpose?)
According to an Aryan Nation offcial who has been serving time since
late 1992 in a Texas penitentiary, he, too, recalls Strassmeir's associates
in the Lone Star State, and, as well, in Hayden Lake, Idaho. "I met
Strassmeir at a Aryan Nation function at Hayden Lake in early 1992,"
recalls B.J. Farrington. "I also remember another guy that was there,
The convicted car thief said of McVeigh and Strassmeir, "I can't
tell you much about the German fellow. Everyone in the (white separatist)
movement knew who Andy was, but not much about him... Timmy, though, was
known in the movement as a "mercenary", someone you could wind
up and send out on a job. That guy is an idiot for killing all those kids,"
said Farrington, adding, "McVeigh should have blown up the building
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: WHICH, ODDLY ENOUGH, DOVETAILS WITH THIS TALE OUT
OF A MIDWESTERN LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCE-- ACCORDING TO OUR LEO SOURCE, OKC
WAS ARRANGED AS A "STING" AND WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT NIGHT
OR EARLY MORNING. THE ATF IN THIS SCENARIO HAD NO DESIRE TO KILL INNOCENTS,
MERELY TO STAGE A LARGE MEDIA EVENT (WE'RE THE ATF, YOU NEEEEEEED US!).
ACCORDING TO OUR LEO, THE ATF WAS SET UP AROUND MIDNIGHT UNTIL AFTER DAWN
ON THE 19TH, WAITING FOR THE TRUCK TO ARRIVE. WHEN THEY DIDN'T SHOW, AND
NOT GETTING A CALL FROM THEIR "SNITCH" THAT ANYTHING HAD CHANGED
ABOUT THE PLAN, THEY KNOCKED OFF WORK AND WENT HOME, FIGURING THE BOMB
WOULD BE THE NEXT NIGHT. THUS, THE STORY GOES, THEY WERE ALL HOME SLEEPING,
AND NOT IN THEIR OFFICES, WHEN THE BOMB WENT OFF. THEN THE COVER UP BEGAN....)
The story continues.....
According to Strassmeir, he has never been to any Aryan Nation functions
in Idaho. His statement says he attended a Klan rally in Texas once, as
KANSAS ID PHOTOS
It was in the rough-hewn, flint hills of central Kansas that indicted
bombing conspirators and ex-army buddies Tim McVeigh, Michael Fortier and
Terry Nichols spent much of their time. When McVeigh finished his service
at nearby Fort Riley, the decorated Desert Storm hero settled in Herington
for a short while. Later, he would frequent the area regularly. Mike Fortier
made some friends there as well. And, after coming and going from the area
for several years, Terry Nichols even purchased a home there.
But Kirk Lyons says his client has never been to Kansas. A statement
several witnesses strongly disagree with. Connie Smith, who lives near
Herington, recognized photos of Strassmeir and some others she was shown.
"Yes, I recognize that man's picture," Smith said recently. "In
1992 my daughter was a student, and she had lots of friends in Herington
and Junction City. Tim McVeigh was one of them.
"My daugher, Catina, and her roommate dated some soldiers that
year. Sometimes, the girls would bring their friends to our house... That
is how, I believe, I met Andy Strassmeir... He came to our house with some
of the other young people."
When shown a picture of a man Strassmeir would later share a house with
at Elohim City, Connie Smith said, "Yes, that is Mike Brescia... I
met him at a convenience store in Herington. Timmy was there and my daughter
and brought Mike over and introduced me... He (Brescia) as a friend of
McVeigh's and some of the other young people in Herington. "I told
the FBI about Brescia four days after the bombing, because he (Brescia)
fits the description of John Doe No. 2."
Catina Lawson, Smith's daughter, recalls the German's acid personality
and several of this friends from her "party days" in Herington
and Junction City. "Yes, I met Andy that year (1992). He told me his
father was some big political deal in Germany. I don't think he was a soldier
in the American army... And I remember that he liked to dress in black,
and he was real cold and arrogant - a real jerk!"
Explaining the others in the group, Catina said, "My roommate dated
a friend of his, Mike Brescia. I was friends with McVeigh and Fortier as
well. I've already told the FBI that they should be looking for Brescia
- he fits the description of John Doe No. 2."
Barbara Wittenberg, who owns the Sante Fe Trails Diner in Herington,
remembers that Nichols and McVeigh came into the diner on Saturday before
the bombing. Sitting with them that day was, Wittenberg believes, the elusive
John Doe No. 2.
Wittenberg recounted the morning: "I asked them why they had a
Ryder truck outside. I wasn't being nosey, I just wondered if Terry Nichols
was moving. My sister was moving here, and she needed to find a place.
Well, the guy who thay haven't arrested yet - John Doe No. 2 - he blurted
out that they were going to Oklahoma. When that happened." Wittenberg
said, "it was like someone threw ice water on the conversation...
McVeigh and Nichols just stared at the guy."
Larry Wild and his wife says they met Strassmeir in the days before
the bombing near a wooded area on Fort Riley property.
"We go up to Cameron Springs when they stock trout." said
Mr. Wild, a retired high school coach. "I was shown a picture of Strassmeir
by the FBI earlier... Yea, he's a German you know... He and someone else
walked near us while we were fishing. We struck up a conversation. I noted
his accent and thought maybe he worked at the Fort. I asked him if he worked
for the government, and he just laughed."
Confronted with what these witnesses have told this paper and the FBI,
Kirk Lyons said that McVeigh defense investigators have been passing his
client's picture around in an attempt to influence them to lie. Also, Lyons
says, he has worked out an "ironclad alibi" for his client.
According to Lyons, Strassmeir couldn't have been in Kansas before the
bombing, because he was building a fence for an elderly couple near Elohim
"Those people Andy worked for made notes on their calender and
can prove that Andy was near Elohim City from April 5 through the 19th.
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: ORIGINALLY, STRASSMEIR SAID THAT GEORGE EATON,
SOMETIME CRITIC OF THIS COLUMN, WAS HIS ALIBI FOR THE BOMBING. EATON, WHEN
ASKED TO CORROBORATE HIS FRIEND'S ALIBI, DECLINED TO DO SO. NOTES ON A
CALENDAR WON'T BEAT EYEWITNESSES WHO CAN PUT STRASSMEIR SOMEWHERE ELSE.)
Several weeks ago, this paper asked Mr. Lyons to provide the name of
the persons Andy was working for and a copy of the calendar. At that time,
Lyons said he would think about it. To date, he has not provided such information.
Coming up in part two: How a key witness, short after making a deal
with agents, was found dead in his cell.
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