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Jon Roland Speech, Candidate Forum, Midland, TX 2010/10/23
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Jun 5, 2025
Jon Roland speaks to a tea party rally in the hanger of the Commemorative Air Force in Midland, Texas. Topic includes constitutional compliance and what the Texas Attorney General can do about it.
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like this one is almost every day
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sometimes I'm having to choose among two
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or three in previous years we were lucky
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to get two or three in entire campaign
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season the level of interest in the the
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elections has increased
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enormously and it's a great opportunity
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to begin to turn things around in this
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country
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but it's only the first few
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steps
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now some of you may not you know what a
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Libertarian is let me just say a few
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words on
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that um after speaking to some tea party
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groups where most of the people were
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Republican leaning I remember couple of
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a week or so ago uh one of them said to
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the other uh you
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know Libertarians party is what we wish
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to live the Republican Party
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were and other one says
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well libertarian candidates are the ones
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we wish the libert the Republican Party
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would
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nominate now what is the story behind
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that the story behind it is that even if
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reformers take control of all the party
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offices in any of the major
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parties they cannot necessarily decide
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who the nominees are going to be if
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there is a primary
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system because any well-funded candidate
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can swoop
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in spend a bunch of
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money delivering his probably only name
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recognition to enough of the primary
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voters and he may take
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nomination over the objections of the
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party
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leadership so uh one of the things you
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have to watch out for the primary system
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was built as a reform when he was
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introduced and like a lot of
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reforms it had an effect quite different
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than what its proponents thought it
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would have
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and one of the things that you need to
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be concerned about as reformers because
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you are a
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reformers is that it is not enough to
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demand reform of
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others to demand something of another is
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not to
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demand something from him it's to
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demands what he's going to do to
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you if if you don't specify the exact
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details of the reform you want that's
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right if you go to
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court and win a case before a judge or
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jury probably not a jury but in the case
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that I'm speaking
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of um and it comes time for the judge to
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sign the order if you haven't drafted
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the order for him to sign he's Li to
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turn to your
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opponent and ask him to write the
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order so chances are he's not going to
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want to do it
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himself you have to actually write the
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language of the reforms you
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want you cannot leave those details to
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the people you demand things
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of cuz you probably are not going to get
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what you
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want now now if you don't have the
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skills to write these things yourself
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then you'd better identify someone who
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does and get him on the job and get
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behind what he does you at least need to
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know enough to recognize when it's
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written
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right it's just like hiring a lawyer or
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a physician or an accountant or anybody
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else you need to know enough about his
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profession
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Med his skills in order to make sure
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that he's doing the right job for you
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right if you don't know something about
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medicine how are you going to know that
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the doctor's not AC
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quiet if you don't know enough about law
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how do you know your lawyer isn't
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selling you out to the opposite the
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opposing
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side one did that to me the way I
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learned the law is the hard way I had a
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laer betray me cost me $2
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million dear
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wow I had to sue him from my practice I
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couldn't get any lawyer in bar County to
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take the case because they said if they
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did they would never win another case
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that's
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right sure they said you'll have to get
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a lawyer from out of town well I
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couldn't afford to get a lawyer from out
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of town so I had to pursue the case Pro
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say I had to teach myself enough law to
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conduct a malpractice case my goodness
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and guess what you
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won they capitulated
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yeah they asked my re usual lawyer to
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take the case just so they can surrender
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to a lawyer instead of to lay my
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goodness but that took a lot of
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work I had to really hit the law
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books I had to had a equivalent of 2 or
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3 years of legal education in about 2 or
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3
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months was all I was
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doing the skills that are needed to
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solve our nation's problems are not
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trivial I've spent 50 years studying the
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Constitution I'm best known as the
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founder and president of the
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Constitution Society
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with website at constitution.org
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I'm still learning things about
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it and when I get into discussions with
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lawyers who are supposedly experts on
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this in the field I'm constantly C
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catching them errors you heard earlier
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about catching teachers in errors well I
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get catch lawyers and judges in errors
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oh yeah
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dude it happens every
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day we are led by people who only
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marginally know what they're doing if at
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all and their whole Fields where people
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are just winging it we've seen that now
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in the financial
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field we see that of the mortgage mess
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I've been warning for 14 years that we
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had to insist on the old Court rule of
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the best evidence rule you cannot for or
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may not
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foreclose unless the mortgager presents
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the original of the
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note the original with the signature of
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the D not a photocopy not an affidavit
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that he is the owner and holder of it
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the original and if they had insisted on
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that we would not be in the mess we're
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in today
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but people didn't know they thought well
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we it's okay to accept an Abid sure
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they're a lending institution they're
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you know supposedly trustworthy people
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no they're
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not you don't can't trust
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anybody you may have to but you
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shouldn't
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right
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so my can campaign website is a John
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rand.org J N RND
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d.org there a lot of stuff
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there even though it's close to the
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election I urge all of you to visit and
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to tell your friends to
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visit uh there probably isn't time for
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constitution.org before the
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election
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but I ask you to do that because this is
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an ongoing process you you all need to
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become
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Educators I spent some time reviewing
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textbooks for the State Board of
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Education as a result of which several
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of the key Civics textbooks were
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completely
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Rewritten I found one American
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government textbook that since
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1950 has been teaching students
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that an informal amendment is just as
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good as a formal
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one in the other words precedents are a
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perfectly good way to amend the
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Constitution well no they're
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not the count a judge has taken oath to
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preserve protect and defend the
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Constitution not president
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especially wrong
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president and there have been hundreds
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of wrong presidents I detailed them on
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my website showing how incrementally
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from president to president is taken us
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down the rabbit hole we're in
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today and there's probably no way to
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back out of that without amending the
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Constitution not to change it from what
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it originally meant but just just to get
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it back to what it meant when it was
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started excuse me John John yeah we are
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going to have because of time straints
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we're going to have to move into the
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question and answer session if that's
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all right all right do we have any
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questions for Mr Roland at this
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moment I I just have one while you're up
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there I would I would like to know if
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you are elected Attorney General of the
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State of Texas will you take the lead
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will you take the bull by the horns and
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coers or do whatever is necessary to get
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the other Attorneys General of this
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country to repeal Obamacare on whatever
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grounds we possibly can find
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yeah yes well
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that's an interesting situation
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because uh my coming opponent signed
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on to an existing
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lawsuit prepared by a friend of mine
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David
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rien was a pretty good lawyer but he
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wrote the lawsuit be while the bill was
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still in Congress and before it had been
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adopted and by the time it was adopted
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changes were introduced that largely
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shot down most of the litigation most of
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the arguments used in
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it and I've been advising you know
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trying to ripan and others you have
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really got to rewrite these pleadings
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and argue on a different Theory or
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you're going to be shot down on almost
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everything well the lawsuit has
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survived well all but two of the key
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arguments or or demands were struck down
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and it's likely at least one of the
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other will be
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two so if you don't argue these things
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properly you're going to
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lose you have to know what you're
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doing and by the way the thing that the
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Congress did to cut the the legs out
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from under the lawsuit was they
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introduce Clauses whereby the IRS may
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not either lean or Levy in order to
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collect the insurance
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premiums and the whole premise of the
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lawsuit was to forbid the leving and
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leaning of you know to collect the law
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in Insurance premins well if you don't
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have that
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angle what can the IRS do what what they
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can still can do is using you know
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withholding collect the money and then
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refuse to give it back to you and done
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you not for the insurance premium but
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for other
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taxes okay thank you uh John you seem to
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have wanted a bit off point I still
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didn't quite get my answer would you
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take the lead would you put Texas in the
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lead and tell the other Attorneys
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General to do whatever it takes to
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repeal Obamacare yes or no well of
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course if I redrafted the pleadings and
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the others signed on to it that would be
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taking the Le so that was an attempt to
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answer your question thank you right
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thank you John we're running a little
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bit late so we're going to let John go
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back to the candidate table he will
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continue to take questions if anybody
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who's interest from anybody who's
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interested I'd like to bring on our
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uh next speaker and I made a point make
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sure I knew how to pronounce his last
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name cuz I read it phonetically
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