Constitution Day 2013, Austin Community College
Jun 5, 2025
Student debates on constitutional issues culminated in spokespersons for pro and con positions on each of 12 issues. 2013/09/24 at Palmer Events Center in Austin, Texas. Sponsored by Austin Community College, with participation of ACC students, some of which were high school students doing AP work at ACC. Program document with issues http://constitution.org/event/c-day/con-day_acc_2013.pdf http://constitution-day.org/events
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smith and i'm attending acc the first time this semester um
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you may begin thank you so much this week up here actually
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the uh of being born outside the united states having american parents and whether or
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not you'll be eligible to run for presidency so the person in question his name is
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thomas smith and he was born in mexico to a mexican mother and an american father and at the age of
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10 moved to the united states and became a california senator so in accordance with the u.s
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constitution and current legal statutes we determined that he would be eligible for president in the 2016 election his
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natural point of status was verified by his father's u.s citizenship and by the time he was democracy at the age of 35
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it would be 25 years a citizen of the us we examined the legislation passed in
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1954 and 1972 that liberalized the definition of natural foreign persons
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born to an american system regardless of the geographical location of the birth uh we also searched for a real world
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example that will kind of mitigate that claim and we examined the 2008 election which john mccain who was born to
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american parents but was born in panama was still eligible to run for the presidency and so
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that's what we determined excellent
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are there any other positions
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is there a descending view
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decision was unanimous excellent uh well done
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uh i want to recognize the facilitators and of course the
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i believe constitutional guy who was involved i believe it's mr lashes is that correct
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let's proceed with issue number two
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so issue number two
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issue number two for those of you who are interested deals with uh an issue concerning uh gay
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gay marriage that was recognized in the state of virginia or apartment vermont
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and the couple moved to mississippi over time
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the marriage deteriorated and it's approximately 50 percent of them do and they wanted to seek a divorce
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they tried to seek a divorce in mississippi however mississippi claimed that they do not recognize
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gay marriage the question is does the privileges and
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immunities clause apply as well as this
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well as well as any other constitutional issues that might arise i'm not sure i believe that's the issue go right ahead
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and proceed
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okay so um the issue was whether or not the article four section one full faith and credit
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clause should affect uh if vermont or uh mississippi is
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vermont's marriage and the attorney general said it doesn't uh under mississippi constitution the state
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constitution said they do not recognize their same-sex marriages but the full faith and credit shall be
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given in each state to the public act their acts records and judicial proceedings of every other state so
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the um the he was unconstitutional when he said that
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they cannot get divorced because the constitution says that anything given one state must be recognized for the others here in the
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other state that it is in so uh constitutionally the ag should allow them to get divorced even though their
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marriage was not legally accepted in that state well done nicely argued
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are there any other uh views or positions on the issue introduce yourself sir
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hello my name is jordan robas i'm a junior at henderson high school and
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i'm speaking on behalf of the legality of mississippi's decision and while i do agree with stacey and many others that
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same-sex marriage and rights should be recognized in advance in all states forcing mississippi to recognize the
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broad marriage by proxy through granting of a same-sex divorce is actually violating their full faith in credit
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clause because this is holding vermont's laws over theirs this goes on to or
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as um to be the constitution as an amendment goes on to know the power is
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not delegated to the united states by the constitution which one of those is that of the right of marriage or nor
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prohibited to it by the states are reserved to the states respectively for the people so thus by forcing vermont to
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actually break or forcing mississippi to recognize disparage by proxy it's violating their full faith and clause
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and because mississippi had lost prior to this prior to the community being formed saying that same-sex marriage is
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not allowed while it is not morally right it is legally justified based on the fact that the united states uh
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constitution says that all laws that are prohibiting something when it comes to states rights should be recognized and
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since this was a marriage since this was after the um
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the writing of the constitution it should be held a higher president than that of article thank you very much
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any other any other uh spokespersons from that group well done uh facilitators and the
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constitutional guides let's proceed to issue number three issue number three deals with iran
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launching a nuclear attack against sony oil fields and the consequences that
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occur uh who are the spokespersons for issue number three
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i'm levi i'm a senior high school and i'm taking my first semester of acc welcome
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um i am against uh
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given the scenario about saint who is being destroyed by atomic weapons the question is are the actions of the president at the
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at that moment constitutional and although a majority of my group agreed with his
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initial actions which was to nationalize all state national guard units to
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support supplement the u.s armed forces i won't take time away from you just to give the rest of the group some context
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what occurred was a complete breakdown within the united states we
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responded the president of the united states was killed as part of the attacks
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the vice president took over conditions were chaotic and the president of the united states decided
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to be able to maintain order to take over a number of powers what
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were some of the powers that he took over he took it to his hands he assigned us armed forces
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to retaliate and he also nationalized
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the trucking railroads flight airlines other departments of transportation also
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energy companies and a variety of others in the interest of national security the question is is this constitutional yes
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and that's what you're addressing and um although most of my group did agree with
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the first uh one of his first actions which was he supplemented he was on forces to both
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foreign and domestic services um i cannot find anywhere in the constitution that justifies his actions
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actions for uh nationalizing the companies to my understanding the congress has
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this power but they do not belong to the president and in this scenario congress wasn't absent they were on
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leave so uh and to my understanding the president does not inherit congress's power while
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they're absent so that's why i found it thank you very much
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are there any other positions on this very intriguing and controversial issue
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yes sir
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um i believe that uh one moment introduce yourself no i'm elijah
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benjamins uh i go to school at acc rio grande i'm a freshman
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um my first semester ever in college well
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good to see good to see you too okay
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i believe that the actions undertaken by now president biden were constitutional
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uh the justification he used to ensure domestic tranquility via which is outlined in the preamble
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is ruled by the supreme court to be not a valid justification of federal
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federal rights but it does say elsewhere in the constitution that the president may in extraordinary cir occasions
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uh act um act on behalf of
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the congress in a way to ensure that the laws be faithfully executed
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and there are certain presidents in the united states constitution such as the takings clause and amendment 5 the
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interstate commerce clause all of which can be used to justify nationalization of the
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nationalization of the trucking industry of the energy industry and
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this specific article article 2 section 3 i believe the president could make an
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argument that he was simply making sure the laws were being faithfully executed
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in that capacity in the uh situation of this extraordinary circumstance he was acting
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constitution well done sir logical
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thoughtful presentation
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are there any other speakers on behalf of any other position
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in that applies to issue number three
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seeing none let's proceed to issue number four issue number four involves a
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search at an airport an acc student returning from a trip to
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turkey is stopped his laptop is confiscated
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and all that it contains is revealed in the process of the
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investigation and the search question is
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homeland security have the authority to do that
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do i see a spokesperson yes sir my name is keith brown i'm a student at acc i'm
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a history major and to go over the first issue
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can this information be used to convict the person who they seized the laptop
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from we had a general consensus that it is unconstitutional
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under the fourth amendment it states that you have to be issued with a warrant or a probable
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cause and it specifically says that they uh picked this person at random therefore
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breaking the constitution uh the second portion of this
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was can this information be used to arrest the other conspirators that were
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on the laptop we had two different opinions at our table
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the first opinion is that being that the fourth amendment only
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covers the person that's directly being related to he would they would still be uh
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possibly able to be convicted and we had another person saying that
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was a moot point because uh they broke the violated amendment
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sir well done you summarized your entire group's positions even the one that you
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didn't embrace well done thank you
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hello my name is emma barrera i'm a freshman college student at riverside
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and i'm studying general sciences welcome thank you so the search involved occurred at an
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airport which has the same equivalence as that of a border and the country does have a primary
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interest for protecting uh border security so right off the bat travelers
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should know that they have that they need to have a reduced expectation of privacy and crossing the international
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border simply because people's safety could be at hand furthermore
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people regard the emails that were found in this man's laptop
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included some emails about blowing up some elementary schools so regardless
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of whether those emails were true or not people's lives are in danger so this is why this government should put his
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information to convey joseph apple stop stop stop lawyers
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judges did you hear that did you hear the mobilization of legal
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doctrines to make an argument somebody learned a lot of law in a short
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amount of time and presented it very well you are
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very
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are there any other spokespersons for uh issue number four
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seeing none let's move on to issue number five
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issue number five deals with a very controversial issue that is very much alive
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uh throughout the country and in the state of texas constitutional issue the issue of a right to an abortion
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who is our spokesperson on this question how's it going my name
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anderson high is yes sir brazil so we talked a lot about the 30 mile
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restriction where you have to have an abortion plan within 30 miles of hospital that will admit people with
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complications and we said that it was unconstitutional to require the hospitals to admit these
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patients just because a lot of them leaked privately owned would not work but also the 30-mile restriction is
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unneeded because there's only a point seven complication rate and in texas there's
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nearly zero deaths in all of the statistics shown
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we also talked about that there's just really no way to enforce
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the doctor they can admit patients to a hospital can be there and the fact that they have
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to the fact that they have to be present in order for the abortion part to be open
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running is unconstitutional and is in fact and a violation of uh
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presumably for women's right to have an abortion yes sir understand your conclusion understand
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your argument because you made it so well thank you sarah
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just like to give a shout out to this cause
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next let us proceed
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we are on issue number five
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issue five do we have any more spokespersons for issue five no
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seeing none let us move to issue six
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hi everybody my name is i'm ashley thompson
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our issue was on the united states congress passing authorization from the president to an
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attack on syria syria and then stating that the president went over his boundaries have been declared
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although our group did not support the resolution of congress passed but given the authorization was vaguely
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worded for example number three degrade serious capacity to use women's in the future
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the president's power's first constitutional under article ii section one as chief executive and article two
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section two as commander-in-chief well done clear sustained to the point
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so you're saying the president did have the power to authorize the
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attacks on the oil fields in syria okay
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and ma'am you are i am ashley thompson and ashley do you
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have a uh alternative position or a descending view um
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our congressional resolution that congress authorized by the president is authorized to use armed forces of the
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united states as he determines to be necessary and appropriate so in saying that
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it was up to the president to determine an appropriate action and he took those
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actions and if congress did not want it to happen they should have been so fake
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about it so you believe that the congressional authorization the language
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and the authorization uh permitted the president to take the action that he did is that correct
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very good both of you outstanding jobs
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let us uh proceed have another spokesperson ah
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go right ahead good evening i'm virginia roberts
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jr and i attend multiple acc campuses and i am in opposition
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to the president having the right to declare
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this um after this liberation agrees in general that declaring war is
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not the first choice nor the best choice in the case of syria some reasons backing this is that
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it's posting a war without imminent threat our group felt that syria has not
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presented a imminent threat to the united states our allies are saying no we do not
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support you we're not we will not back you what is our interest in what cost is the
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u.s willing to pay to go to a war and
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it was proposed to be a limited war of up to 90 days but what really is limited
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we feel it was a violation of the congressional power to make the attack
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and as an alternative we would have
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well done thank you very much
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an issue that certainly is in the news you had a chance to debate and discuss
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it we are on issue number seven i believe
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issue seven spokesperson
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okay
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you introduce yourself sir hi my name is joshua thompson i attend
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accf how can i major in music theory and composition yes sir go right ahead
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our conclusion at least at my table excluding one of us was that the execution
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of was unjustified because he was not given his right to
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due process as an american citizen whether or not he was in or out of the country in this case he
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though was speech may have been a credible threat words are just words and should not have enabled the united
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states government to take action so you find the conduct unconstitutional
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yes sir thank you well done
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we have a descending view
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is that the consensus
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are you are you speaking uh sir uh we have someone at the microphone right now are you speaking yes sir are you
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speaking on behalf of uh issue number seven listen okay go right ahead introduce yourself my name is
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ibrahimovic yes i am here at acc i am the acc
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senator i have been at acc for two semesters and i love it so
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um what so do i all right again uh what our panel
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concluded was similar to what the fact there said um so we are on the uh of the
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opinion that the issue wasn't taken into account because
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for the most part
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it hasn't been explored enough um when we took into account the fifth and
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fifteenth amendments um the right to uh fair trial grand jury he was given
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that as well as the provisions granted by the 14th amendment the provisions which are
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the doctrine of the corporation we feel that the government has taken steps uh too far in the modern era
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and this was our viewpoint on the decision
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so you find it unconstitutional but you find it unconstitutional based upon different reasons is that
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correct concern well done
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before i move on just to be honest out of an abundance of caution are there any other views or positions are to be
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presented on issue number seven
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yes boy issue number seven that's been an exciting group
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let me bring it on
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good evening i was the only person that was in the microwave i'll proudly
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announce your name um my name is reese and i'm a student acc
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because he um supposedly was mixed up with wrong people in the united states and was
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involved in poorhead the shooting man so i think that it's completely
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constitutional that he was executed by drone because if he was not executed
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the american hegemony would completely fall the way that we've seen examples of
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america jimmy fall were in iraq uh
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like um they basically gave me these speeches just like this guy was doing
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so how exactly could we have gotten is an important question because this is the only way that we
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could have gotten imminent reality so one cost cost-benefit analysis what it costs united states and what
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benefited the united states is something that we have to realize but it's extremely beneficial
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even if it migrates some of your personal needs i want to stop before anybody says a
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word but this gentleman just did whether you agree or disagree
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epitomizes what this night is all about the ability and the right of a single
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individual to articulate of you
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different from everyone else
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the bill of rights protects against the tyranny of the majority
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and it provides people like you and each and every one of you
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with the right to articulate your views well done sir
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anyone else in that group
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let me get uh attention um i have to selfishly say i am so proud to
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see my students volunteering they know i don't bite good to see you
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you're all doing great hi you'll get you'll get your credit don't worry
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um before we move on let's wake up for a
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moment this issue deals with enhanced terror interrogation
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this is the issue dealing with really order
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so i am waiting with baited breath
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for the results of your deliberations so introduce yourself and tell us what you've done my name is rj rohn i
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attended hcc uh so while debating this topic we came up with one main question that we asked
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ourselves and that was to someone who has prepared or preparing to commit an act of terror innocent population of
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people who deserve ceremonies we said no and because by committing this act of
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terror the terrorist is inflicting cruel unusual punishment in a population of
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innocent people therefore he does not deserve the constitutional right of not being full and unusually punished
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also the fifth amendment does not apply to him because you are not asking him to
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incriminate himself and finally the emergency of the situation would create
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an exception to the 14th well done proud of you
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thank you
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do we have any other views from that group or is that the consensus now we have another view
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excellent introduce yourself hi my
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this version of torture anything that requires a torture
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that would violate our constitutional
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rights it would violate the movement because he would be incriminating himself using this torture is not a guarantee of
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any information on our behalf also if we reviews our limitations and restrictions on what conditions torture
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might be allowed if you are allowed to torture this on these provisions who's
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to say when and when it may not be acceptable
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also it will lose confidence in protecting our citizens
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being able to express a view that may not conform with the majority well done
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any other views from that group seeing none we're moving on to mission
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number nine issue nine deals with the whole question of voter identification
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do we have a spokesperson to speak on that issue
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yes sir my name is matt corey
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uh came out against this voter id law uh finding that
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according to the 14th amendment no state should make workforce any law
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jurisdiction equal protection of the laws in amendment 24 the right of citizens of
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the united states to vote in any election shall not be denied bridge by the united states or any state by reason
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that they were to pay any goal or other tax being that the voter id law would uh
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put a financial burden on impoverished people and elderly
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we will see that it would actually be viewed as a full tax
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legacy of taxes as a section 5 state that you really like to suppress voters
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this i find to be abhorrent
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in the state of texas the past 10 years 51 cases of fraud and 24 would have been
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prevented by this law this law does nothing but disenfranchised voters if you
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disenfranchise one electoral voter then the whole system might as well be thrown
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away because you ruin the rights of anyone it could be any one of
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any other spokespersons on that issue yes we i would reported
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for this law actually um my name is attending the rio grande
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campus at acc and majoring in psychology and
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so what we talked about is that he only spoke about the problem about the fraud
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we would actually say that picture ids or id voting would protect your
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your right to vote we would provide free id so there would be no cost associated with that
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we would have a better accountability as well as accountability
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and it would actually who would not be motivated by knowing there would be less fraud if you go vote
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and um to make you feel or to make you feel
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that you will actually be accounts and about the older people and the less
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fortunate people um there will be other ways to make it accessible we for
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example would be talking about making pictures available at the voting
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booths so that we would take pictures to put it in a system and actually save it there
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for next year and so on and that way for like from that point on
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always
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should give you the courtesy of listening
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yes for voter id is constitutional thank you
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any other spokespersons for our division
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let's move to issue number 10. issue 10 deals with the university of texas law school
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admissions policy and the question of alleged reversal discrimination we have a spokesperson
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we do
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hello mike i'm a first-year student at accc corporation
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we signed our day and discussed many aspects of cindy hooper's uh
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equal protection causes the abilities of states discriminating against people based on a race origin
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gender or national status and for her to score higher than any one of the uh
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other people in minority groups and foreign admission to ut
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was quite
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quite unconstitutional in our eyes
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their website says that they are 51 white and 49 minority and according to
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the us census uh the state of texas is 44 white and it just doesn't see that affirmative
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action is the underlying cause behind that is good enough uh
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minorities are good enough to get into their uh universes that they would like to go to
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based on their status they don't need additional help well done thank you
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thank you are there any other this is a controversial issue are there
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any other positions on this question yes ma'am
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hello everyone my name is my first semester here at acc northridge and i
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would like to say that um ut was not discriminating
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against angel of american acceptance but instead uh they were
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pressured to act a uh because here it says black and hispanic
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legislators were pressuring to increase the number of minorities in law school
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so ut did not act on racial discrimination itself they were striving to reflect racial makeup of texas and
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increase diversity in schools instead substantive
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substantive due process under the 14 the amendment states that more than
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and i forgot my little booklet if someone could help me out
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you're doing fine thank you
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all right it says that more than offering a process of fairness
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take a deep breath you found your source what are you referring to
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you're referring to the fourteenth amendment to the united states constitution yes sir good it's sorry so
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the rest of the group can look up the 14th amendment to the constitution they have copies of that
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and refer them to the particular portion of the 14th amendment that you are relying on as authority
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right it says that more than offering a process of fairness reports have found that the 14th amendment prohibits states
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from harming an individual's ability to fully participate in society
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just because you t reject it
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appreciate
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to obtain a higher education in general given her high customers anyway so the
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14th avenue does not give her weight
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does not give her away does not need to give her way into the ut institution
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any other spokespersons on that issue
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any other spokespersons on that issue yes
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hello my name is jason simpson um i had to point out that she said that
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she scored higher than any of the other minority groups and also that she scored higher than 50
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of the whites who were accepted now i have to point out that if she scored higher than any of
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the minority groups and still pretty low in the white section doesn't that point out that there's already some
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discrimination inherent in society doesn't the university of texas should isn't it compelled to sort of make up
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for that discrimination maybe other races didn't have as much of an educational opportunity in the k-12
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system maybe they do need to be given some sort of consolation when they get to the
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university level in order to eventually bridge the gap and
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you know unify the races get rid of racism i mean reverse racism is wrong it's as
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wrong as racism is but how else are you going to take any steps to make sure
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that minorities can get into college good good for you
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thank you any other spokespersons on that issue
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you must have had a very interesting and lively discussion in that group
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seeing no additional uh spokespersons uh i think i may have gotten some issues confused let me go to
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issue number eleven issue eleven or number one
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we did eleven first my mistake issue number one
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thank you
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so just for some brief background on the issue and introduce yourself yes my name is zach caldwell i'm a
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junior at hendrickson high school and the issue we're dealing with here today regards a
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law passed by the state of texas requiring all students to say the pledge of allegiance in schools the issue at
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hand comes inherent within the under god clause in the pledge itself and many atheist
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parents sued the state of texas on behalf claiming that this was an infringement of the establishment of
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religion under the first amendment and so in order to clarify such hot topic issues as this it's important to
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note that it's not about whether or not the phrase under god should be taken out of the constitution or not but rather if
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the state should mandate it and we're looking to pass president of as the west virginia state board of
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education versus burnett or the elk grove unified school district versus new doubt it's important to note that not
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only do past court cases set the precedent that students are not required to say the pledge of allegiance in
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school in the first place thus making this piece of or thus making this law
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inherently unconstitutional and of itself when you look at the issue at hand in and of itself
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the when looking to the first amendment stating that congress shall make no longer respecting the establishment of
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religion or riveting free exercise thereof by forcing those who may not confirm the existence of a particular
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monotheistic god in the first place to state this in a form like this is
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directly unconstitutional because it is acting in essence as an establishment of
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religion where they should not be forced to or able to and this is an
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unconstitutional issue at hand well done
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prior cases put your argument together in a clear fashion well done
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we have a either a concurring or a descending view
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my name is todd valentine i am a criminal justice major with acc
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under god is more of an of patriotism i do not feel that his religious belief
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under god has added to the pledge to fight communism and is how we today have pride for our
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country our children should grow our own pride for our country and our soldiers
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who have died for that right the pledge should stay required by all students because it is an act of
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patriotism and not the practice of religion thank you sir
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do we have any other any other views on this issue
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if i may speak twice um you spoke on another issue did you not i did
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no you may not okay do we have any other participants
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in that crew who spoke wish to speak on the issue under
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discussion scene none let's move on to
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issue number 12.
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issue number 12 deals with uh the second amendment the issue of gun regulations
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okay my name is jessica morrison um and i'm a student at acc i am taking
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the food law classes to hopefully prepare me for law school in 2014.
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so our topic that we talked about was whether the legislature from vermont passed the law
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banning the sale and use of public military sound assault weapons clips with more than
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eight bullets and the sale and use of teflon cover cop killer bullets is constitutional or not
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my group came up with the belief that the statute itself would be unconstitutional not because
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we went one way or another on gun rights in total which we had very differing levels and opinions on but
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because the statute itself is far too big and it's
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it would be very hard to enforce it the vegas that we were talking about was
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more of this the word sailing use does that include the sale to
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police officers to military personnel would they have the ability to have those things to protect themselves from
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smart criminals or criminals in general who don't necessarily obey the law
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is eight rounds enough for the military or police personnel so those were kind of the big things that we found were
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too too much of an issue to determine whether this would be constitutional
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do we have another spokesperson on the issue of gun regulations we do indeed my
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name is art whitman i'm a political science major at ut and acc
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and we found this at my table to be unconstitutional because it comes into direct conflict with the second
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amendment which clearly states that a road regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state is the
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right of all people to keep and bear arms and that shall not be in french
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a ban in itself is a direct infringement of this amendment
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now the second amendment also is the only amendment that comes from the preamble
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it is where it states that a well-regulated relationship being
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necessary to the security of the free state which is the preamble itself we as citizens are the militia
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we are well the second part of this amendment states that it's the right of us the militia the people
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to keep and bear arms and any ban there so whatever it may be is an infringement of
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that second amendment right thank you
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okay my name is johnson i'm an acc student at rio grande
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and i'm here to represent a project
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as far as respect to the individual collective safety
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rationally collective safety outweighs rational
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individual rights
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thank you sir thank
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of you positions on a very hotly contested issue do we have any other spokes
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spokespersons on that issue all issues have been addressed
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we have had an evening deliberating and discussing and debating the constitution
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we've done done so civilly intelligently and hopefully you've had some fun
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some people would say can you imagine a group of students getting together for two hours and discussing the
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constitution and constitutional issues what a better way i can't think of a
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better way to celebrate the birthday of this magnificent document
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give yourselves
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all of you should be able to now receive your certificates of participation they will
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be distributed thank you and good night
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that you need to get credit for your professors and be picked up at the back
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you're not leave if you want credit for your professors without it facilitators facilitators please come forward
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facilitators and guides who are still here please come forward we want to get a group picture
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facilitators please come forward on a group picture
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