Lela Pittenger, Mister Tramps, 2011/07/15
Jun 5, 2025
Lela Pittenger, candidate for Texas Republican Party nomination for U.S. Senate, speaks before a gathering at Mister Tramps, Austin, Texas. http://lelaforsenate.com
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hey can you guys hear me is that a little better all right just keep it close to the mouth that should work I am
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Lima pittinger I am running for U.S Senate I have been in this race for 18 months now when Hutchison originally
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said she was going to step down after the governor's race and when she decided not to I just kept at it in the last 18
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months I've been to 240 different meetings events and rallies I've been going to the different
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candidate forums that the Republican women's clubs and tea party groups are having when they allow me to attend
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believe it or not they don't always invite everyone in the race so I'm there when they let me come and I
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don't need to lecture you on what's going on in this country I think you guys get it so I'd much rather just let
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you ask any questions you want and let's talk about what's important to you and I
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think that but that covers it so does anybody have any questions they want to ask
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anything you want to talk about a particular day okay
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Dave was totally prepared to attack me when he came in
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okay so what he said was my background does not include a long-term involvement
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in politics Will people try to attack me because I don't have political experience or connections and what I'll
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say is people haven't been attacking but they do ask all the time have you run for office before have you ever been in
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office and I haven't I haven't run for office I haven't held political office so I think that for some people that's
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really important they want you to I think it's amazing the irony where people say they're tired of career
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politicians but then they want a career politician in the next breath when it comes to the senate race so I think
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there's a little iron in that I don't agree with this idea that we need someone who's been doing things 10 20 30
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40 years before they get to the Senate I think you get they get that mentality I think you get disabled warped system I
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think that we need people who are outside of it when you get a fresh perspective but that's what's important to me for sure do I think they'll attack
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me I think that yes eventually if I show to be a threat which I had a really interesting experience a few weeks ago
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I didn't think I was a threat but one of the lead candidates everywhere this
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person goes their team videotapes them and in this candidate Forum they also
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videotaped the other two leading candidates and me they didn't videotape
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the two other citizen candidates
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commission or the Catholic uh African-American underground well here's what I'll say is the Catholic
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African-American on the Railroad Commission I love Michael Williams is a good person he was not in the race
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anymore at that time he has left for okay let's clarify the race for everybody in case not everyone's on the
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same page at the moment there are seven eight declared candidates right now
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there's myself I've been in it for 18 months there's 10 Crews he's been in it
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for about six months prior to that he was running for attorney general because they thought David Dewhurst would move
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up Greg Abbott would move up and that attorney general position would be open and Ted was running for that when it
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didn't clear out the way they expected he changed everything and rolled over to this race so he's only actually been it
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for about six months Michael is now running for a U.S house district open seat that has been created
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in this past session right it's called District 33. because I was going to ask
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you why you know I would I would have been supporting Michaels right why are you running again right right no Michael
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is in house race and Roger Williams left this race to be in the same house race
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and they're already attacking each other it's already ugly bloody and brutal and it's only
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just begun okay so Elizabeth Ames Jones is still in the race she is a lovely
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person and I don't know if you know this but she actually has a hearing problem that's where her speaking issue is
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coming from she wears hearing aids in both ears I don't know if that's from birth or whatever it's none of my
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business really but that might explain why you say that about the staff at the Railroad Commission would disagree with
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your assessment of how she is as an employer versus the other side
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maybe if not slapping at least management style issues maybe you know I don't know she's been nothing but lovely
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to me she's been a really good person to me so Elizabeth myself Ted Cruz former
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solicitor general is in there then we have Dan Patrick who has not declared he
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just has his exploratory committee but he still gets invited to the different candidate forums from the tea party
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groups and some of the Republican women's clubs then we have a gentleman named Glenn Addison he's out of Houston
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he owns funeral homes he's a very nice man he his promise his commitment is
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he's only going to serve one term and he will not accept any of what he calls the luxuries the pension the health care
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that sort of thing then we have a gentleman named Andrew castanuella he's
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out of the Brownwood area he's also just kind of a citizen candidate really nice
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guy a former military he retired with honors and now he is a drug and alcohol
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counselor I think MHMR so that's how many did we get to right
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there oh there's Tom leopard former mayor of Dallas um
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Tom's the former mayor of Dallas I'm just gonna leave it at that on top I'm sorry
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I did mention Ted that he had originally been in the Attorney General's race so that's the crew that's for sure sitting
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there right now and then I would love for you to introduce yourself absolutely before the summer right now if you want well if nobody knows me but yeah I'm
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David Smith I live over please find me on Facebook most of the time right I
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think I crucifies uh Obama that's about all there is too okay so
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David is also in the race I actually only learned about him the other day and we'll see each other tomorrow night at a
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program and watch the hatching so that sums it up it's been going on for 18
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months the people that have been it that whole time where myself and Elizabeth and then Glenn came in a little later
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than that Andrew came in just a little bit there that but not too much Rogers left Michael's left everything that's
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hanging in the air is David Dewhurst for number one number two a lot of people don't know this but Michael McCall has
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said he's thinking about it and that he decides to get in the race he's willing to commit 10 million dollars of his own
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money is he willing to commit to not running photography at the same time I don't know but you know Believe It or
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Not Congressman McCall doesn't call me and letting me know what he's going to do so what else can I answer Dave does
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that answer your question
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right so how many terms would it take for power to corrupt you I'm sorry what
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how many terms of service would it take before the power of practice see I
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I don't see that happening I really hope not but it's only going to stay that way
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if I spend a lot of time in groups like this I believe that the candidates should live amongst the people not
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lecture the people so I'm not interested in buying a house in Washington I'm interested in you know
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renting an apartment I don't really want to stay in a hotel because apparently some of them stay in the hotel long enough they get the most luxury Suite
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there can be ten thousand dollars a month a week whatever um
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exactly I'm hoping to ride a motorcycle I'm hoping that's the extent of my transportation in Washington today
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my husband has one I want to learn but in the time that he bought when I was pregnant and I didn't think it was the
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wisest of moves no not even a motorcycle
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you know I would hate to be false once I have my own motorcycle license then I will do pictures like that I don't want
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to be a faker you didn't mention David I did just that he hasn't committed yet
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on supposedly on the 18th of this month he's supposed to be making an announcement
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himself he's already got too much up here now they're all ready to tell him
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he's not he's an exploratory communities
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okay so here the most recent poll in the last month has said the following
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half of those who are likely Republican voters have not decided
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Dewhurst had 25 percent and Cruz had almost 25 percent now they didn't
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Improvement they didn't include me uh the one I've seen most recently was
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probably a little bit earlier than that yeah
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leading cruise by about 31. I can believe that um
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he does I do person without a doubt has the name recognition and that will and he has the money to continue to finance
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that name recognition yes sir
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okay so he asked this to divide between the people in the Republican Party who
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are big government Republicans and those who are trying to be conservative and where do I fall and all that I don't
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know if you ever saw an essay I wrote recently it was in the last couple of months and it's I called it no longer a
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conservative and what I said was when you look at the word conservative it actually means to maintain a system
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as it is I don't think we need to maintain the system I think it needs to be dramatically altered and so I said
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I'm not so much a conservative I'm more of a freedom Mentalist and the difference is when you think of an
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environmentalist versus a conservationist conservationists want to respect everybody's property ownership
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they want to respect how everyone lives their own lives but they do want to protect what we do have environmentalists want to take back
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everything you have for the cause they believe in when they wake up in the morning what they drive what they eat
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where they go where they work is determined by an entire mental state focused on the environment it makes them
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an environmentalist I think we need to move from being conservative to being from Freedom mentalists every aspect of
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our life is be based on bringing back freedom
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now we have a foundation a template that really made sense I agree and that's
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conservatism to me go to the temple and make sense right
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yeah so that's a concern you know we can't change that we can't another problem is
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we've already changed a lot of those roles practice them to run it by Senator it
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used yeah the 17th Amendment yeah so what their demographics call the super house right so you can spend money like
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Congress yes why don't you pick yourself up to the house
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um actually a number of reasons if you look at the U.S Senate you only have to be 30 years old to be a senator we don't
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have a single Senator under 40. my generation has been completely duped by
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what's going on both on the Democrat side and then many of them who are in
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the Republican side many of them still believe in big government they just believe it on social values instead of
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fiscal values and that's very frustrating to me we will have no voice in the U.S Senate even though our
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generation will be on the hook for this debt we will also be taking care of the largest senior population in the history
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of the country on the largest debt in the history of the country and no one's talking about it and no one's prepared
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us for it my husband and I have spent the last five years as full-time caregivers of his grandmother so she
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could age in her own home we've already done what my generation is supposed to be preparing to do but no one's talking
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to them about it no one's preparing them for it I've already done it and I want to go forward as a Conservative
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Christian pro-life woman and say I know the joys I know the trials and I know it
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can be done because I know Liberals are going to find the young face that says we can't afford seniors and they will
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promote assisted suicide euthanasia yanking health care benefits yanking
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Social Security benefits because they're going to say we can't afford them so that's one reason number two there's
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only one pro-life woman in the entire United States Senate I find that very troubling because every woman I know
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believes that way and votes that way also of these 17 women in the Senate
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only fire a Republican and only one is a conservative I find that very concerning
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we already have one male attorney as a senator I don't think we need a second one
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and so as someone who is not an attorney I have a background I got my bachelor's
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in English from Austin College and I got my Master's in dispute resolution and conflict management from SMU to do
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mediation negotiation and conflict management systems I think we need that desperately enough in the Republican
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party let alone in the Senate so those are some many reasons why I'm saying the Senate instead of the house
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how does a magic Bill Ferry and I can pass one thing and you'd have no opposition to get it through within the
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one bill you want to get taxed oh there's a really long list and every day no no I agree every day something
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different gets me more pissed off it's Heather hi y'all everyone meet Heather
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Jordan that Heather Hilton she was my Midwife and she is new to the club here
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coming in I'm sorry I tried to have a home birth for 48 hours
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and my son was turned wrong and we tried every natural method to turn him and he
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wouldn't turn and and her Infinite Wisdom she said get your fat butt to the hospital so I ended up having a
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c-section but she was an extraordinary midwife with a question my newest hire at the firm
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voted for Obama in 2008 right our last political event was going to a tea party
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thing was her blind fiance right except handouts and exposed to that Community
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because of the entitlementality right how are you going to bring more of those people to the line you can't bring
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anyone in by calling them a name first I tell people all the time as a
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Christian I've never want anyone to Christ by calling them a name first we have to get rid of that attitude and
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that mentality and politics I feel like I feel like our political atmosphere is
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like quicksand people have walked in and you know the more you move in quicksand the faster you sink what we have is
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politicians teaching each other how to throw sand in each other's eyes instead of showing people how to get out of that
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quicksand attitude and take a totally different approach to politics me personally it's talking to people it's interacting with them it's listening to
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what they have to say what their concerns are finding the root of what has upset them or made them afraid and
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then addressing it from a liberty mindset and trying to walk them through each step of that we have to stop being
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completely emotionally focused on each issue and really get past emotion help people get through that and get to the
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logic and reason of it because everyone does have logic and reasoning capabilities but we don't always take
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the time to get through the emotional part we spend more time screaming and yelling than communicating how are you
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going to get through the media filters particularly for where you're coming from primarily for anybody
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they don't want anyone that could remotely look like another Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann they do not need an
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intelligent articulate educated passionate pro-life Christian woman out there they're going to hate me more than
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any man in this race or any other race for that matter I'm totally aware of that and completely prepared for that
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the only way to move beyond their message is to keep your own message and keep the message the message not get
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into the bickering and arguing with them do not get onto their level keep saying what you believe and believing what you
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say and never stop repeating it Dina campaign
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right and
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campaign is really formulating your message on almost every single any issue you could possibly imagine before you go
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out and have to talk about it I know that's tough I think she's a brilliant woman I think she's a wonderful woman she worked really really hard I think
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there's never going to be a time that they will be fair to a conservative woman so you need to be ready for them
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to be tricky and we have to be better prepared on all the issues we have to make sure we've not it's not even just
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about calling it coaching but it's really communicating is your message clear is it on point because the first
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three words you say are what people are gonna hear they're not going to hear the rest of your paragraph you have to be
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ready for the first few words to be your answer we still haven't answered your question about what piece of legislation
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I would want to pass immediately with no resistance and most immediately no you're good that's really good thank you
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though I would say Obamacare most immediately just immediately
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I'm sorry no no no he said what piece of legislation if he was the legislation
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magic bearing if I could pass something and it would it would pass with no resistance I would say the repeal of
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Obamacare yeah overturning Obamacare think that the doctors and hospitals
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should have Monopoly and be able to charge whatever they want do I think they should have a monopoly I don't
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think there's a monopoly in a free market system because people will go to Alternatives a perfect example is I started out at an obstetrician when I
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was pregnant the service was terrible in only one visit I listened as I was
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sitting in my room and for my second visit the first visit I was really upset but I thought I'll give him another chance it was a bad day the second visit
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I'm waiting as they double booked my doctor and I'm listening to the girl across the hall saying I've never seen
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the doctor I miss your assistant and so that was it for me the next day we called a midwife twice as much as the
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rest of the world for health care we do have this much foreign
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to tell everybody that oh we got to reveal yeah okay specifically what about Obamacare have you read the bill I
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haven't read every page in the bill I've read a significant amount and I've read a lot of other information surrounding it went on like dislike about it
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specifically one I hate the way they repay things what they're going to do now is instead of paying in each
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individual provider that gives care they're going to throw a pile of money on the floor for each person saying that's all there is whoever claims at
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first gets it so even if someone's provided care if they don't file in time they're not going to get paid for it I
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don't like that I think that's wrong use render Services you should get paid for it but two I don't like that the federal government is involved in any decision
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making concerning our health care I don't like what people are calling the death panel I think it needs to go I think it's completely unconstitutional
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that there's a panel of people who the only time they are going to be in check is if Congress takes the time to pass
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legislation to overrule something that they've dictated that's what I've read recently
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okay woman thank you for correcting me here's what else I don't like about Obamacare I don't think anyone in the
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federal government knows better than you on what the best way is to treat your body whether you want to use alternative
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medicine whether you want to use traditional medicine we pay twice as much not only because insurance companies are in there but because
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hospitals are required by various laws to treat people who cannot pay someone's got to pay for them at some point
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I was supposed to correct that's a big part of it it's trying to correct it I also don't like the fact that you think
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that people should need to just turned away to that lift and die when they they
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need help well first of all majority of people who because my mother's a nurse and I'm familiar with what's going on in
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hospitals and I have friends who are the positions the majority of people the vast majority of people who show up in emergency rooms are not in a life and
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death situation the vast majority of them have a cold or a sore throat or a
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tummy ache that is a normal everyday illness issue that they should see their doctor for and do not and then into the
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emergency room as their Physicians room that is a completely wrong allocation
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resources I don't think Obama's going to change that but Obamacare is going to change
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that at all but we can disagree I also don't like the fact that they're requiring by federal law for us to buy
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insurance like we shouldn't we we shouldn't be required by the federal government to purchase evening and it's
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not in the Constitution and they should not be requiring us to do it so I disagree with that I don't have health
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insurance
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doctors and nurses are making way too much
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they're they're overpaid it's not a competitive market okay I disagree with
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you I have friends and family who are in the healthcare profession they're not making way too much I have actually a
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friend who her father's a doctor he is a urologist and he almost did not come to
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practice in Texas because his liability insurance had to be so high he couldn't afford it he couldn't charge enough to
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help afford the liability insurance he'd be required to keep to even practice in Texas so I don't think that's an issue
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but at the same time I believe if someone is going to pay 200 000 for Education it's going to cost money for
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them to pay that back and we want the experts we want the Harvard level of
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care but we want to pay Walmart prices for it for me that personally doesn't make sense whenever I had my child I
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didn't have health insurance I paid my Midwife in cash because that's the
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professor what we wanted to do that's what we both agreed to when I had to be taken to the hospital for a C-section
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because my son wouldn't come he was turned wrong I negotiated with the hospital I'd negotiated with the doctor
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I negotiated with the anesthesiologist and I negotiated with a pediatrician and we talked about payment plans and how
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much I could really afford to pay and what they were willing to take and we're all happy parties in that situation our
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Care Health Care is expensive because of things like Medicare and Medicaid that pay dramatically less than doctors and
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hospitals can afford because hospitals are and Physicians are frequently required to take on patients that give
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no that get paid nothing back and many of the doctors I know take those people anyway and give pro bono care so they're
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not all evil they're not all out for every Baller in my opinion because I know a lot of them and we can respectfully disagree I do not think
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Obama Carter will solve problems I think what it'll do is give 15 000 more people a job at the IRS with the ability to go
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through your taxes which really quite frankly wouldn't you spend on Health Care is none of their business and try
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to audit you audits in the last 10 years for the American middle class have more than doubled so this was your motive is
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primarily that you have given your family are in the medical industry yes my family's not middle industry my mom's
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a nurse my dad is actually he's was forced to retire because he was in a
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terrible car accident he had no health insurance is built for three hundred thousand
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dollars by the time the trucking company that was responsible for his accident paid for what they negotiated in a
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program my father and my mother still had to pay over twenty thousand dollars in medical bills and they've been paying it off taken care of yes he was taken
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care of after three days when they decided to finally operate on him because the first three days they didn't
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think he'd lived so they didn't want to waste their time what if they turned him away he said I'm sorry my mother went to
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a different hospital because my mother is a very determined person but here's what I'm saying is that's not why I'm in this race I'm in this race because our
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country has completely moved away from freedom and has moved away from being a
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constitutionally based Nation to being a nation dictated by bureaucrats our
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Central planners and I disagree with them and not one of them knows how to educate my child better me that better
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than me not one of them knows how to choose health care for myself and my family better than me not one of them knows how to choose the right vehicle
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for my family better than me but every one of them wants the ability to be able to dictate that and I completely
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disagree I'm sorry yes sir so Obamacare is going to give us Harvard prices and
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Walmart care as opposed to well and that depends on who you are
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because if you're a senior they've taken 500 billion out of Medicare so if you
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start if you continue to get care in the next 10 years then you must really know
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someone's prices
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and that's why you negotiate with the physician I got great care and I
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negotiated with the hospital and I go to negotiate with our physicians and it all worked out well you actually making
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negotiations no it was after no my husband and I
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didn't want to go to the hospital because we wanted to be able to pay people what they wanted for the services
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they're rendering and I paid my Midwife in cash up front like that's that's what
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she wanted we agreed to that and so when it came to the doctors in the hospital they asked do you have insurance I said
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no I'm I'm gonna pay myself and they said okay here you go they let me apply they asked me if I wanted to apply for
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Medicaid half this babies in this state are born on Medicaid because they knew I was lower income I said no thank you I
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don't want to be on Medicaid I will pay myself out of cash or a check over a period of time and they said fine so
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what they did was they gave us 15 days they said either your bill is fifteen
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thousand dollars or if you can pay it in 15 days it'll be eight thousand dollars so I spoke to my parents my husband
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spoke to his parents they loaned us the money temporarily we paid the hospital and now we are paying back our family
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members because I believe it should start with you if you can't do it you moved your family and you they can't do it move your friends move to your church
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move to your community my Sunday school class paid my Obstetricians Bill well the question issue
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um what would you propose or do you have any ideas that would make it possible because the government could do or
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anyone could do right to make it possible for the whole Healthcare System to be moved out of this manage
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centralized Democratic institutions
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well and what I would say too is we need to remember that when we were talking about this issue we need to think about
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where where we're talking about it in Austin and in big cities without a doubt big centralized corporations are in
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charge of a great deal of this and they make life a lot easier for doctors because they will pay the staff to deal
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with all of the Medicare paperwork this the Medicaid paperwork the insurance paperwork that that's a significant
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portion of the doctor's fees is covering just the staff to cover paperwork in red tape if you look at small towns and
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rural areas it's a very different story so when we think about this we need to think about it on a nationwide or a
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Statewide level and not just what the big cities are dealing with how do we get to get through that I mean
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we're going to literally have to get away from this idea that the government should pay for or be involved in the
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price regulation of any aspect of Health Care they help control and manage prices
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in a million ways through regulating positions through limiting your choices and what you can do in health care what
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kind of health care you can pursue what we call Health Care we're going to have to literally roll back their ability to
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control every aspect of Health Care from you feeling not feeling well and so you
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decide where to go to how you pay your bill it's going to take a lot of work it's not just Obamacare there's a
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million other ways that they control prices I mean a perfect example is vaccines
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Hillary Clinton through Hillary care told all the vaccine companies you need
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to give a special prize to the government and you and it's a dramatically reduced price
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by the time it was over we had started out with eight different vaccine companies in America and it got down to
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three because most of them couldn't afford to stay in business and be providers in that way because of price controls it
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didn't matter what it cost them to create something the government only wanted to pay this much for it and they were trapped in that situation so we
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have to literally get them out of this price control cost control situation where only Medicare hits this price or
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only Medicaid gets this prize and insurance companies get this prize I think that's wrong hang up here was right behind you yeah
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um I really think it's enchanted with the public party back in 2004 right after we worked hard
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to get divorce reelected right we got paid for the Medicare prescription Department right and my office used to
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be across the hall from Senator Johnson representative New Hampshire right and I
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want you to listen to John what the hell have we done yeah right and he said oh
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don't worry about it here we have the perfect solution that's the health savings account
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everything that you're seem to be articulating right that you'd like to have and sure enough we had it for about
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15 months right and then how sooner did we have it's like bait and switch will allow you to have health savings
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accounts before the prescription drugs all right and then 15 months later that
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thing which I got from sporting Services was gone right now go ahead so what's
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your question so I mean there is a solution right and it's been introduced into law and
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the student was an introducible law that was taken away by the special papers right right how do we address that I
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think literally we address it by making sure that of the 33 senators of her
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election next year we get a majority of them with very liberty-minded
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mentalities I mean one person can stand and they will educate I mean a perfect example is what Rand Paul is doing right
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now he's standing on a lot of things that even other tea party candidates aren't standing for and he's being a
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voice and he's on the senate floor and he's willing to say I'm going to filibuster in ways that other candidates won't we're just going to have to really
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work Nationwide not just in Texas but work to make sure that people who are very Freedom focused are elected
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Nationwide am I willing to do well work for everybody
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oh absolutely absolutely that should be the centerpiece the one thing you know
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when somebody asks what they're wanting me to do is I'm going to go and I'm going to filibuster every bad Bill what I see coming down the pipe oh yeah you
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might want to say that I can do that thank you for that advice but when I look at Obamacare okay I
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still view it as a stalking horse a successful stocking horse I like medical savings accounts
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I'm going to drop a health care employment coverage for my 49.2 years so
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that someone else can pay for it well it's going to be cheaper yeah it's going to be cheaper that's how they planned it
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plan for me it's the way you go to Single Payer yeah that being said the problem with health insurance was it was
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already 40 government run right Medicare and Medicaid when you pointed that out we moved from 40 to 51 with Obamacare
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right at some level it's a model in the middle problem either extreme is better right
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as long as it's a drop down for aspirational rich people like me so
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really what it comes down to and here's my question reporting is Health Care a human right
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it's not a right that's delineated specifically as health care in the
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Constitution that's real god-given right I think that when you say life liberty
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and the pursuit of happiness if you want to have life you've got to have health
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I think each individual pays for their own care and if there's an issue that like I I'm a perfect example
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I'm the oldest of four children in a family of six other should have been not
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admitted to the hospital now because he didn't have the payment up front he I've
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never said that if you don't have payment up front you don't care I'm talking about people who never pay it off no I said people who never paid it's
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not the same I don't think it's a right no that that a right that someone else has to pay for
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it what I'm saying is if you can agree to paying for it which my parents did they said we will pay please care for
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him my mother's a nurse she knew what she was doing she knew who to talk to and my mother stayed by my father all
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nine weeks he was in the hospital six weeks under drug induced coma three weeks recovering on his own
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let me finish what I'm saying and I'll help you understand I'm the oldest of four children
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one of my brothers is what's called a brittle juvenile diabetic most diabetics still make about two
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percent of their insulin my brother makes .02 percent they told my mother he wouldn't live to see 21.
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this was when he was about eight years old my parents because my brother had a
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pre-existing condition frequently paid almost everything for my brother's care because he every time my father would
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get a different job and they had new health insurance for one year they wouldn't cover my brother because it was a pre-existing condition my parents
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still paid my brother's bills they committed to it they did it they took care of it and my brother is now 27
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years old because my mother took good care of him then about seven years ago my mother
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turned out had rheumatoid arthritis ever since then anytime my family has changed
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jobs my mother has a pre-existing condition and my parents pay cash out of pocket for my mother's care
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then my father was in a terrible car accident he broke his neck and three places his back in three places all of
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his ribs bruised a kidney and collapsed along broke his left orbital bone
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bruised his brain no and I'll tell you why it didn't because the premiums were
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so high for my mother and brother he couldn't afford to insure all three of them what he did have was Aflac
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he had paid for their accident policy my father was in an accident about two weeks after he dropped his own health
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care there was a cow in the middle of the road it's a truck driver had fallen asleep
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a minivan going 70 miles an hour smashed into my father after he had hit the cow he did not receive immediate care
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because all of the EMTs thought that anybody in that truck would be dead and they didn't want to waste their time on
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them they cared for everybody else who had had accidents and then came to my father when they heard him saying will
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someone get my head out of the glove box they hauled him to the hospital he was
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in there for three days before they operated on him because they didn't think he would live and they didn't want to waste their time when he outlived the
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three days they operated on his neck to fix it what I'm saying is you know my parents
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any time they haven't had health insurance have still paid cash paid out
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and it may have taken some time a couple of years but they've paid every penny for the health care that they wanted for
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their family hospital had to trust that they would absolutely because they didn't have no insurance it was a
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gentleman's agreement you got it okay but they knew that both my parents were employed so they were likely to get paid
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first up it's it's by law and they have to treat the right under the situation
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regardless if you're okay let's stop and think about it and there's some Republicans that say that should not be
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the man they should have been able to you've heard him away
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because those are people who go into the ERS or the hospitals it's not a life or death situation but the paperwork it
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takes for a physician to prove that it's not life or death is so onerous and how
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they will be sued and lose their license if they if it turns out to be wrong they go ahead and treat them anyway
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any other questions
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regardless of what the Supreme Court has ruled throughout history right and regardless of what the law is today what
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do you feel that an article in Section 8 I believe I don't have my pocket constitution on me they explain for
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everybody so everybody knows right okay um article section 8 basically defines what
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the Federal Government Can Do Right the federal government what do you think and what do you feel
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me personally about the general welfare Clause okay I think the limit of the
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federal government concerning our general welfare should end at a National Defense period that's all I want the
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federal government doing a National Defense period And I don't want that very clearly defined because a war on
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terror has created in many people's minds the idea of a National Defense that should include the Patriot Act
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which I think is completely unconstitutional and has created a radical invasion of American lives and
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privacy all the federal government should do is a National Defense and that means many times we are not defending
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other nations we are only focused on our own are there times that we may need to intervene it's entirely possible I'm not
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a completely non-interventionist person because every time I look at what Hitler did to the Jews I have a really hard
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time thinking that we should ignore something like that but at the same time what we've defined as a reasonable
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intervention has gone way out of constitutional bounds and way out of logic and financial reasons
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so does that answer your question National Defense that's it
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yes I mean I vote I vote that we need to get out of Iraq again Afghanistan Oblivion I mean aside from the fact that
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there are Undeclared Wars is a serious problem number one number two our goal
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for going into Iraq since it wasn't oil was to get rid of Saddam Hussein mission
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accomplished so we need to come back we need to let them rebuild their nation in the way
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they believe and alignment with their beliefs and their amplitudes and mentalities I know that a lot of people are trying to paint this idea that
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everybody in Iraq is anti-American or wants all of us to be you know not
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everyone's a radical is a religious extremist over there it's such a tiny amount of the population and it's up to
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the population to keep them from being in power just like it's up to us to keep power-hungry people out of office here
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like Muslims or flown from America and Destroy them I'm sorry I say that again
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a lot of Muslims are going to come here and kill us all um well I didn't know that there was a
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flood if you could show me actual data and numbers of floods of Muslims coming
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here to kill us all I I'd be curious to see those hard numbers and hard data but I'm sure it's actually top secret
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illness CIA files I'm sorry oh I've been actually I was a tea party
41:38
activist before I was a candidate I've been to a number of tea party meetings so here's what I believe you could be a member of any party and disagree with
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part of what people say here's what I think about the Republican Party in the Tea Party just to give you a quick
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analogy I am a Christian I read the Bible I
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believe Jesus Is My Savior I am a part of the umbrella of Christians but I don't attend every
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church because I don't think every Church's theology is correct I am a republican I am under the general
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umbrella of Republicans of the denomination called Texas
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Republicans which are far more conservative than the rest of the country I don't give to the other denominations I don't give to the other
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states I don't give to their evangelists their their leaders their leadership because I don't agree with them I don't
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believe in what they're doing I give only the candidates I believe in because on the state party level and on the
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federal level I don't think they've done a great job and it's the same thing for the tea party I held on certain programs
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that I believe in and agree with if I don't agree with a speaker or I don't believe them I don't give to them I
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don't attend
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I think they were just really hopeful I think they just kept believing the idea that it's going to get better it's going
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to get better they're gonna they're gonna honor their promises and I think it finally got to a number of people to be too much and they just needed a rally
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and cry and they found one which is what I believe I'm sorry we need to have a tea party on the stock
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market floor when that gentleman said it on National Television I think that Lit a lot of people up but I think there was
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a lot of underground work before that I mean everyone who follows her on call knows the work he's been doing and they
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were waiting for someone who's willing to stand out front on those issues local tea party meetings
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but I don't hear it because it is it seems like this tea party just wants a
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team take what we have paid for you know last week
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they've already paid for they want to steal it right um when when all they have to do is is
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tax your welcome seats restored the taxes
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for me to stop that the ridiculous amount of money that we've I mean what
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we're spending on so-called National Security defense with the quickest it cost 1.2
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million dollars for every Soldier that's in Afghanistan right
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our health is is a security issue Michelle Obama
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would definitely agree with you on that she said that not too long ago I'm sorry one second because if you asked a lot
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let me give her a chance go ahead and I'll come back to understand I don't want to forget you guess okay
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what's going on Social Security
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and not putting it on their own so let's we're not God
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are you familiar with insurance companies now insurance companies well let me give you some hard numbers
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hearing the hard numbers on that when they started Social Security there were
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17 workers for every one retiree if we keep going down the path we're on now
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with the lack of Reproductive Services going on in America with people not having children we will be down to two
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people and two workers for every retiree the average retiree has only paid 40 of
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what they take the average retiree is living long
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enough and it's on Social Security and Medicare long enough that they are only
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actually have put in 40 of what they actually end up using
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so when we say they're taking our money I personally think everyone that's owed
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social security should be given a check back for everything they were paid in and if they want to put it in an IRA or
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a mutual fund or another way retire if they want to go find lottery tickets with it it's their business but I don't
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think it's anyone's business to promise her future earnings
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without her permission to continue to pay for the care of those who possibly
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didn't take care of themselves first of all the government should default on his promise well to its own
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when you say the government I think the politicians in the past 40 years have
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lied and made promises and they're going to do just fine but it's still going to rob my generation and her generation at
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the rate that we're going she will have to pay taxes of 70 on the income she makes that's a crime it wouldn't be any
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problem at all don't stop I agree and now on Military that the
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aggressively made the world's fans I understand and that's actually only a portion of it but Decatur Institute has
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an entire website called downsizing federal government that can tell you to the penny every agency what can be
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reduced and I think you should take a look at it because you'll find even more Beyond defense if you didn't need to ask a question did you have one yeah
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it's hard people treat you terribly
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the U.S Senate yes and they only I was not on and I'll tell you why I talked to
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the Texas Tribune Evan Smith in person and through email and my some of my
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supporters even emailed him their standard was a person had to have raised
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at least a hundred thousand dollars to even be considered to be on that stage since it was going to cost so much money
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to run overall and I understand where they're coming from but my response was well why not have a forum in two parts
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one part for the first four candidates and part two for the other four candidates and fully inform people of
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how many people are in the race and what they believe and what they have to do and Evan Smith did not respond to my email but what I tell you also explained
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to him the hypocrisy of what he was doing the hundred thousand dollars Michael Williams and Tom leopard and Roger
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Williams had all personally loaned their their campaign accounts a minimum of that amount personal wealth offense
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things on that stage when no one else could have done that so there is hypocrisy in it I'm not bothered by it
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I'm just working hard to meet people and talk to them because I think people are far more interested in getting to know you as a person than watching you for
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one controlled hour on PBS
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right from donations
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how do you expect to raise enough money to be a serious break well I just continue to work I'm really
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working harder than any other candidate I've been to more programs more meetings and talk to more people than almost all of them I think probably combined so
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it's really just I'm gonna have to be committed to working hard I mean whenever I hear them talk about how they're sacrificing for freedom I did my
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taxes for last year and I was working part-time so I could also continue to campaign and have a baby
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I made working part-time fourteen thousand dollars last year twelve thousand of it I spent on this campaign
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so when they talk about their sacrifice I don't really sweat too much about what they've really done
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oh I know the difference having a chance yeah
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much more wealthy they do and have all kinds of contacts literally working harder than everyone
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else and doing everything I can to recruit people to help me if I don't have a million dollars in the next year
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I'm still going to continue to fight this fight because I would much rather get everything that I am and all that I
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have to this fight now than to mourn the war my son will have to fight because I
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didn't do my job thank you yesterday okay John's going to respond for me
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thank you John if we can get Layla on stage with her
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opponents she will outshine them with her charisma
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that's worth something you can see what happened with Sarah Palin when she appeared on the scene she
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lit up the room and Lila does that when you put our next to Ted Cruz Ted's
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a real nice guy he does not light up a room she's not just pretty
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she knows the issues she can handle herself or debate
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far better than Sarah or Michelle can and I think that's worth something and
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if we can just get her before and up people they'll turn things around by the way I should point out since I
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have a microphone that hopefully in November Leela will be the Republican
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nominee and I'll be able to live the libertarian that way he will both be on the ballot
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thank you John John and I are friends he's unfairly biased towards me John you
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like so much why don't you just drop out every umbrella yeah
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well if we if we join forces against the Democrat I think will be more effective
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yes sir so you you commented about Evan Smith one of the things that the one of
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the elephants in the room that nobody has exposed yet in Texas and as a candidate it's probably not mutants but
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for you to expose but part of the issue is how do we as Republicans and Liberty lovers expose it the Texas Tribune was
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founded by George Soros type right John Thornton and if you do Huffington Post
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and fundraising look at who he backs is John Edwards and Barack Obama right he
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is a venture of altered capitalist who has made close to a billion dollars and
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he's as left as the day is long he knows that an objective media cannot survive
52:41
in the National age right and so he's brilliant he's figured out if we can turn the media into a protected charity
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and he's raising money from Republicans right now and shaping them down to fund
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quality media like PBS right so let hardcore left-wing media will survive
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right the likes of the free market alternative media right and no one's calling him on it and no one's Evan
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Smith is one of his lackeys he's not going to be your friend no I never expected him too yeah please don't thank
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you see the game that's going on behind the curse nobody's unveiling it what do
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we need to do to get that story out there Thornton is asaurus he says George Soros of Texas
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and the whole Texas perfume is a hardcore left-wing Shakedown scam just
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like every Foundation Ford Foundation right Crocs Foundation McDonald's got stolen by his left-wing wife his second
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wife all foundations be stolen by environment which is the title of liberals and turns left next to him from
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day one is how much money can we get from Republican entrepreneurs until they figure out our game how do we expose
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that and here I don't know that I watched it on video saying no here's what I'll tell you is everyone I know
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responds really well to a YouTube video a quick visual that's less than five minutes make a video get it out there
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people forward that stuff like crazy most people don't even leave me on Facebook and I made thank you
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alarms I get one meeting with the dude and I may want to they want the million one day it's entirely possible and in a
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free market you are welcome to do that Dave did you have another question okay
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what's your position on um
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here's what I'll tell you my position on gay marriage I am a Christian I personally believe that marriage is
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between a man and a woman but I have a serious problem with the fact that the church continually asks the federal
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government to intervene on Church spiritual religious issues if we
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continue to ask them to intervene on every moral issue they will become our morality police and they will tell the
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church what they can and cannot say how they can spend their money and what they do they do it in a large part already
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with things like pastors won't speak out on politics because they're afraid of losing their tax exempt status I think
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the church needs to put an end to looking to the federal government to answer moral issues and they need to get
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them out of it all together the church should I mean the government should not be in the marriage industry the
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government should not be in the health care industry the government should not be deciding how you educate your child I
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think the church needs to quit looking to the federal government to be our adult police it's a serious problem
55:39
because that's the sort of thing that allows people like Hitler to get so much power over the Christian faith and
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what's happened churches kept their mouths shut as Hitler did everything that he did so you mentioned earlier so
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you wouldn't run a game reprogramming Clinic using Federal money well I don't think I bothered quite
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frankly by any politician that takes government money I'm bothered by the fact that so many of them have farms and
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get hundreds of thousands of dollars in farm money and AG money that's a serious
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problem I tell people all the time you would be shocked to know how much money your politician is making in tax dollars
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through the exemptions and the legislation they're creating they've turned you over no I don't think that
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they should be taking Federal money I don't think anyone should take care of money but I also believe the federal government should only do a National
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Defense
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I think that's each State's individual right and their responsibility
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well and so the only other thing that I might bend on is immigration do we want
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to have a national immigration policy because quite frankly unless each individual State wants to have military at every single border to keep you know
57:06
the immigrants who came freely into Texas from Crossing into Oklahoma or crossing over into Arkansas I don't want
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us to get in that kind of mess so I might bend on immigration but what they're doing how they've not managed it
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is really causing us a lot of problems right now so I'm pretty limited on what I think they should do you know each
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individual State frequently has better and higher standards than what the federal government does on education the Texas the Texas environmental groups
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have a Texas environmental program has a higher standard for clean air quality than the EPA but the EPA is still suing
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us to have control over our air quality no I think each individual State and that way people are able to most likely
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live in the place that agrees with what they believe and spends money the way they want it spent I think if you want
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to believe in gay marriage move to New York Texas not going to happen move to New York move to California Love It live
57:57
it spend your money that way the only thing that really frustrates me is when Texas does so well they all move here
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with their liberal values I think they should have to leave their voting card at the state line sometimes until they
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spend a year here understanding why it is successful but they're not going to it's not going to happen that way it may
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help you I don't always give you an example if there's one what you're saying and you're just right here we're trying to hold it remember this but
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well and not just that but my husband's grandmother that we take care of she's a nurse and she got her license in West
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Virginia but Texas was a super super kidding State they said we agree with your licensing standards she came to
58:45
Texas she was a successful nurse she had a wonderful career here I think the states should be able to negotiate and
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decide these things I don't think the federal government Central planners get it right ever and we spend more money and when they
58:57
get it wrong they want more money for it if a business spends money and does it wrong they go out of business and it
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doesn't happen that way with any government program I mean can anyone think of a government program that's died or been shut down
59:10
oh yeah even then it's not even over because we have people who are fighting with NASA alive in the 1970s
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it's about 14 times less money per dollar result for the country to hold an
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agriculture at the time and now it's not that way so yeah I don't think the
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federal government does very much very well any other questions yes sir
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my favorite Federal program is anyone hearing the crickets
59:45
I'm listening favorite Federal programs
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I'm really trying I'm thinking I'm trying to go through the Departments you know there's like a million right now I
1:00:02
don't have a lot of love do we need diplomacy do we need diplomacy
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I don't know uh our current state department isn't exactly very America
1:00:15
friendly as a concept yes no and you know when you have a
1:00:21
president that does not perform well in front of other nations sometimes you need a secretary of state to go around
1:00:27
that and correct that situation and you need people with wisdom to help approach that but very small somebody need to
1:00:34
fire things away before exactly so they can later write a book and talk about all about it so what else
1:00:42
Heather no questions probably because we spent like two hours together every time we saw each other
1:00:49
exactly aside from the 48 Hours Heather see me at my worst and she still supports me so I think we'll be okay
1:00:57
anybody else late joiners any questions I don't know if you already answered this but uh
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I'm not a fan of marijuana personally but I've been on federal government spending 40 billion dollars a year and
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keep it illegal right right like you're saying I don't think the
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federal government has any place okay here's what I'll say is I'm not a
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fan of hot either I've never done it yeah I thought I had never seen it uh I never hung out with folks that did not
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that I think they're evil or awful or wrong but the one time apparently I did my husband and I were at a print a house
1:01:33
a friend of his and he was apparently on the table I had no idea I didn't even notice it um it's not me it's not my style it's
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not my thing I do have a problem with the fact that we have
1:01:45
far too many people in jail and others who are violent evil
1:01:50
criminals being released because our jails are overcrowded I do have a problem and I agree with you
1:01:57
we're spending a lot of money keeping this thing illegal when quite frankly it's used it's a quality material
1:02:04
product not even just for smoking but it can be used for clothing and so many other very beneficial programs and
1:02:10
aspects of life so yeah I have a problem with the federal government and and the
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more we have on that it's never ending it will never end so it is truly an
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excuse to keep an endless program an endless amount of agencies in existence
1:02:26
and funded and I have lots of family who are in federal law enforcement and in
1:02:32
drug and drug enforcement and finding those Wars and those battles I don't agree I don't think we need more people
1:02:38
to die over pot I have a hard time with legalizing everything heroin just really
1:02:43
doesn't interest me as something the government needs to be regulating and selling and taxing but I agree pot is a
1:02:51
serious prop prohibition is a serious problem for us financially and it's created a
1:02:57
serious problem in our prison systems but what I'll tell you is there's a lot of people making money in person systems there's a lot of people make their
1:03:03
livelihood finding the drug war and that's going to be a huge bill of decline does that answer your question
1:03:10
it does but I think the pill you know it would save us more money oh absolutely it would save a lot of money it's a huge
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I didn't say it shouldn't be fined it's gonna be it will be tough there's a lot of people making a lot of money on
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this right now it's pretty much different from them to produce Pierre
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do you have to take place before America oh absolutely so how do we reach that Optimist control
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it's going to take like I said it's going to take us working on a national level and working to elect people on a
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national level who are going to have a very different attitude about politics this should be about governing this
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shouldn't be about politics this should be about the Constitution this should be
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about people's real and very necessary rights this shouldn't be about someone
1:04:01
stealing another person's money to pay for a program they believe in that that person may disagree with but we're going
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to have to change our attitude we're going to have to elect leaders who have a different attitude about these things
1:04:13
do you think the government can survive the monetary crisis for itself do I
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think it can when you say survive there's a difference between a person who is brain dead and on life support is
1:04:26
being kept alive and there's a person who's walking around free and healthy and doing well our right now our
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financial situation is on life support almost brain dead do I think our government can survive
1:04:38
this I think there's enough chicanery and trickery that these boys will survive just about anything do I think
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our nation and our constitution can survive this absolutely but we're going to have to have people in office who are
1:04:50
ready to deal with the really really painful stuff and not be afraid of the Heat
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I'm pretty tempted pretty tempted if I can be in labor for 48 hours without medication
1:05:07
than having some Senator get in my face really doesn't bother me we can medicate
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you you're good for 480 hours a medication for me literally would be
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chocolate that's about it I don't drink coffee I don't drink anything but water not I don't drink alcohol so I'm happy
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we're going to need more than just one person Rand Paul cannot be alone as much as I hope Marco Rubio will step up a
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little more right now he's not I don't I don't feel like he's as bold as I want him to be he's not as tall as he said he
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would be yeah and Mike Lee seems to be Michael is very good Mike Lee's great I love listening to him on the Cato
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Institute podcasts and he's a very smart band you know he automatically endorsed
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Ted Cruz without meeting all the other candidates or talking to them so that's I'm a little disappointed Mike that way
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but it's not like he owes me an endorsement so anything to know about you
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oh I am on Jim demint's website so since Mike Lee was endorsed by Jim DeMent I
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don't know how he was in the dark but he didn't call me he didn't talk to
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any of the other candidates from what I understand and that's okay that is his right that's absolutely his right his
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freedom of Association New York they've got that weird thing going with the conservative line and
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people running sometimes in Baltimore parties right where you're set positionally not entirely out of the
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running to do really well with the Constitution party as well right are there enough voters there to even make
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it worth your while yeah I mean I will talk to them and I'll encourage them to vote for me because you can't change
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anything if you don't win right you've got to win to be able to change from within we get criticize all day long
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from the outside but unless you are getting ready to strategically relocate to another Nation if this doesn't work
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out you've got to win and you've got to be inside it to change it they shouldn't be running a candidate
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so I'll be showing up in the primary advantage for you I wish that I'm not going to try to restrict them in any way
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and I don't think that we should have legislation in the state that restricts people from voting for a different party or a party having another opportunity I
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think that's wrong to limit them that way I mean geez we're not communist China yeah
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well we're sadly we're much closer than people even understand when we fall do we fall from previous totalitarianism of
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the left or a rightly encounter Revolution to restore the Republic that never quite gets around to it from the
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rights I'm really hoping for an altogether
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revolution of ideas I never want to see people get to guns
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and I'm heartbroken to hear the number of people who talk like that I don't think that's going to solve our
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problem it would end a lot of lives and it wouldn't end it wouldn't change a person's mind well ten percent of people
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know what's going on right yeah
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the other half they're stepping on the gas yes I agree and when you say the other half the reality is only about 25
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percent only about 25 of people who are eligible to vote in this country are even bothering to vote and the Texas
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primaries the last time we had one less than three million people voted in the primary even though we have 18 million
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people in this state eligible to vote we have to when people talk about this great American awakening I'm sorry I'm
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not saying it yet less than 25 is not awake that's like if you're laying in bed and you have one eye open that's it
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that's how little it is right now we have a lot more work to do we have a lot more of those brush fires of Freedom we
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have to get started what else anything else aside from pot
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I mean you're not for it I didn't know if there was any other issue important Liberation but you already answered that question okay what didn't we ask women
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who wish we had I don't know I do love talking about all
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the issues I mean obviously I want to end the Department of Education I'm for total
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freedom of choice when it comes to education I'm a firm believer in homeschooling
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my husband and I are we are going to homeschool our son mostly because I wanted to speak more than one language I
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love languages I wanted to know the classics I want him to be able to recite his Bible with ease and I wanted to be
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able to recite the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence with ease and I want him at an age younger than
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college to be able to understand what John Locke was talking about and you don't get that in public
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education and sadly you don't even get it in a lot of private schools anymore you get a lot more in California now in kindergarten yeah in California in fact
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they just signed legislation requiring gay history and social studies and God bless them it's their state as long as
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it's not a federal law they're welcome to teach that but I'm not living in California I don't want that talk to my
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son if I want it I should be able to teach it I shouldn't require someone else to teach it yeah
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and I thought I was going to say you would be totally shocked by the kid rights of Massachusetts high school I'm
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not I've read a lot about it and I have people who don't believe me about what's being required in the education system
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people who are Educators who don't believe me when I tell them what's being taught in other schools in other states and I send them emails I send them
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articles that there are a lot of people who definitely don't want to hear it I can't tell you how often I talk to people who look at me and just say I
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don't want to hear it I don't I don't want to hear it it's not possible on immigration on taxes on our debt there
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are a lot of people who say I just I can't handle that I don't want to hear it it's not going to happen one of the things that I'm impressed I didn't mean
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to bring that up no that's totally fine since I've been involved with probability of office here in Texas one
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of the things that I have really woken up to is when you look at the key players like Bad actors in our state
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legislature right like one in a hotel or per Watts right right the ingredients if
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you thought that would continue saying that stuff was bad we've seen worse stuff like safe
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1440 in the last legislatures that's 2009 right where they were going to they
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had snubbed in Committee in a special session length that Kirk Watson had
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introduced Latter Day Brandon CPS access to children without rentals yes right or just pause right
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that got defeated in the life of Senate with Patrick Rose attached it
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and the Republican Liberty caucus was part of this this movement you know for the moment in two days right to stop it
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yeah we got 20 000 people to call the uh the governor's office
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he hasn't beat away because he was going to sign that right and one of the things that we learned in doing all the
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research is that the real bad actors are all funded by the family foundations okay
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um
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their foundations and their funds all the wealth you've been created with
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Liberty providers it's being used to control other people that's right
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what I find that we have to do is from my perspective because I find you because I try to educates people through
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that fact right do you think it's off base to do that I
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don't know that it's off base I think that a lot of people have a hard time with the idea that there's a conspiracy
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of any kind they don't want to think about it that way they don't want to be seen as someone who believes that there
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could be a conspiracy you know what I mean that there's like conspiracy I call it a gameplay yeah oh yeah absolutely
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and so you have to change you have to adjust people's mindsets and language to
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understand this isn't a fiction novel this isn't people living in their basement tuning in to you know ham radio
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that's that's not what this is this is really everyday people who are concern about these issues concerned about these
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ideas and want everyone to be fully educated on what's Happening I think it's possible too people that way I
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think more than ever because of the technology we have between the internet and cell phones I think you really can't
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educate people on a faster level than ever before but truly our presentation
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has to be done with love and respect and understanding because it's not usually
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going to be the first time that you say something to someone that they're going to really want to agree they need to roll it over and think it over so if
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they disagree right away we have to know that we are planting seeds in some places and in other places we will be
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harvesting the work of others does that make sense so that's that's how I feel
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that you have to be patient persistent but you have to do it in kindness and love if we do it out of anger that's
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what liberal media will use against us they love anger it keeps them in
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business it really does I'm not interested in that and one quick thing Dave you asked what did we not ask I
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believe that there needs to be legislation passed that says that any attachment to A bill must be domain to
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the bill I think it's wrong that senators are forced to vote for a bill to fund the military and at the same
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time an attachment to it's going to be for Planned Parenthood when they may not agree with those two both of those
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issues I believe every piece of to every attachment every Amendment must be germane to the bill I think that's
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